Dystopian Future

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Are we going to pretend that complete and worldwide surveillance is not going to happen in the next 10+ years?

Google and others are already talking about how GPS will be switches on without a way to turn it off in phones. RFID chips are basically everywhere and cameras get smaller every few months.

Is Leeky Forums going to be the super secret underground restistance that is fighting the government(s)? How are we going to protect ourselves from the data leech? Long and random passwords and encryption is obviously not enough! Do we have to go into complete submarine mode or is there a way to continue with "normal life"?

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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/policy/government-unlikely-to-budge-on-gps-diktat-for-mobile-phones/articleshow/52033554.cms
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/education/story/panic-button-and-gps-in-mobile-phones/1/652883.html
RavySnake
RavySnake

Cuck, surveillance is protecting you.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@SomethingNew
But normal is life means browse Facebook and share each part of your private life with Google because your have nothing to hide, right ?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Your best bet is to get off the Internet. Set up alternative networks.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@SomethingNew
be a legit political force. drop the SJW memes because Google owns that too. Setup communal networks were people do get paid, but fairly and in both directions. As in your data is valuable. Just transparency balanced against common sense privacy. Be a model for a better future. Going to ground just makes it easier to call you all paranoid child molesters and then the Mega Corp Servers win. Exactly as planned.

WebTool
WebTool

@SomethingNew
Wrong.
Everyone is required to wear implant RFID tags used for transactions (digital money, money no more tangible).

inb5GPS, wherever you go the implant will trip on every post/pole.
As you see it is not gonna be the captain obvious: "everyone is surveilled" but rather "no one knows they're surveilled"

The thing is mind control techniques are being extremely-widely used and everyone's turned into "well-tamed dogs" except the "black wolves" (psychopaths) who can't be penetrated by the "power of suggestion."

tfw psychos will change dystopian world

Timeline:
Unified Digital Monetary System
RFID tag implementation (2 in 1)
Mind Control Sound Waves (using binaural audio techniques)
Forced poverty (so the top will always be the top :>) , no one is allowed to rise above)

The only way to solve this is to conceal pregnancy and give birth to a child who is free of RFID tag but first you must have a either a bunch of tinfoil shit or give birth in a faraday cage (where xrays or sensprs wouldn't reach and find out.)

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Lord_Tryzalot
nice trips

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@SomethingNew
This is the future most people want, apparently. rms warned us and nobody listened. They just laughed and called him paranoid. Now they say nothing.

There is nothing you can do individually to prevent this. You may evade it, but it won't be enough. You cannot live as a free man in a world of slaves.

This reminds me of what happened to the suits in Lain. You cannot get away from it. The net is as much part of the "real world" now than you yourself are. The internet was just a game to us, but now it's bled into the real world.

We are quickly approaching the end of freedom. I have thought about it for a while. I have a rifle sitting next to me. When the time comes, I'll prepare a nice meal, have a good time then end it. I do not plan to stick around in a world like this. The computers I loved now run my life and everyone else's. This was not what I had hoped when I was a kid. Dr. Kaczynski was fucking right in that sense, but he thought he could do something about it. It's clear that we cannot.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@WebTool
This is the kind of shit that derails discussion of a legitimate topic.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@SomethingNew
I'm fine with it if I get to work in a datacenter that looks like that.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

People conflate privacy with surveillance, which is wrong. Being pro-surveillance does not mean being anti-privacy. Surveillance is very important for people's safety and is does not need to infringe on our privacy.

For example, imagine we had a facial recognition device placed in every home that scanned our faces and compared them to known terrorists. An invasion of privacy you say? WRONG! It periodically downloads new terrorist profiles from the internet, but does all the scanning LOCALLY. It would not send out a single byte, even after decades, unless it spotted the face of an actual terrorist.

What rational objection is there to a system like that which would make us all more secure and maintain 100% of our privacy? (No "muh security")

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Carnalpleasure
When people talk about surveillance, they are talking about constant and universal surveillance of everyone, which is the trend today. I have nothing against someone being surveilled if there is a warrant to do so and there is good reason for it. That is not what we have now, nor what the politicians are pushing.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Firespawn
When people talk about surveillance, they are talking about constant and universal surveillance of everyone, which is the trend today.
That's what I was talking about. Surveillance of everyone does not necessarily violate privacy depending on the technical implementation.

WebTool
WebTool

@TalkBomber
But your implementation, of course, can easily be abused.

Any device in your home that is not controlled by you can be used to spy on you. Facial recognition technology is no different, and is probably the most extreme example. It very much is a violation of privacy.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Google and others are already talking about how GPS will be switches on without a way to turn it off in phones.
GPS
on all the time
with no way to turn it off

1) Sauce or gtfo
2) It'd be a pretty fucking shit surveillance device if it can only surveil for as long as the battery lasts. Which, considering how Jewgle engineers phones, would be about two hours with GPS on all the time.

@WebTool
Everyone is required to wear implant RFID tags used for transactions (digital money, money no more tangible).
Digital money ain't money. It's currency.
Currency that's not backed by money is sure to fail. The US Dollar is on a one-way ticket to hell if the current system of producing imaginary money from nothing doesn't stop.
If you think that gold will suddenly evaporate up and stop existing, you're a damned fool.

This thread is garbage.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Bidwell
That's the thing about a cyberpunk world. You were promised a shit society in shit conditions, but it would be cool. Instead it's just as boring as before, but even shittier. You are living in a cyberpunk world, you just happen to be just as lame as before and will never hack the world.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@SomethingNew
Google and others are already talking about how GPS will be switches on without a way to turn it off in phones.
I don't know if you've noticed, but Snowden's leaks already revealed that the NSA had a database, called FASCIA, of bulk collected metadata about cell phone connections to towers that they store for months at a time. Between that and baseband exploits that turn your phone's baseband processor into a hardware backdoor you'd have to be a complete fool to think cell phones are secure.

@WebTool
Everyone is required to wear implant RFID tags used for transactions (digital money, money no more tangible).
People who think this shit are part of the low information crowd and should be ignored. The government isn't going to suddenly go full blatant 1984 when they can just as easily accomplish the same goals by working in the background. Why require ridiculous shit like that when cell phones already provide them that ability without potentially angering people or requiring additional infrastructure? Furthermore, if you want extremely precise tracking, something like the ARGUS-IS strapped to the bottom of a drone (which will become much cheaper as time goes on) which the US military already uses and police departments in the US have already experimented with lower resolution versions of would provide more precise tracking than the ridiculous Revelations RFID implant bullshit, and before someone says something about saving hi res video there's already software to go with it that just logs motion of people and vehicles.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@DeathDog
@Carnalpleasure
@TalkBomber

kike or /leftypol/?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@RumChicken
Sauce or gtfo

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/policy/government-unlikely-to-budge-on-gps-diktat-for-mobile-phones/articleshow/52033554.cms

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/education/story/panic-button-and-gps-in-mobile-phones/1/652883.html

idontknow
idontknow

@Lunatick
Why not both?
@RavySnake
Post proof, Oh wait.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Carnalpleasure
The problem in your implementation is that two persons with opposite objective are on the same lever.

One side wants to be sure that no terrorist is the house. So the ones in the houses should not be able to change the code.

The other side doesn't want it's face being pulled by the government.
In order to be able to trust it he wants to know what it's happening in there.

Hard to satisfy both.

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