Dissecting company wars

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

So, with the summer capeshit movie season already in full swing, the Big 2 tribes of internet fans are proceeding to lock horns with each other over whose shred of relevance in an obsolete industry is more prevalent.

On the surface, it seems like Marvel is winning: their movies literally print money and they've successfully culled an audience of teens, tweens and manchildren with low standards and disposable income. This was done in part by injecting popular SJW and leftist mantra into their works, implementing a bunch of unnecessary diversity and basically leaving no character's legacy untouched all to appeal to trendy millenials.

As for DC, their bite is severely dulled by the fact that their movie universe is crashing harder than a Korean space program. Their great big attempt at appealing to a diversity-minded audience failed because nobody could find anything to be outraged about. Their comic sales are literally kept afloat by Batman selling a gajillion copies each month. All they seem to have going for them is the fact that you can read most of their books without being berated for being a white person.

The reason I made this thread is because I want to discuss the facts behind these two companies' situations so we on Leeky Forums can understand what's really going on. I refuse to believe that Marvel is entirely free of any flaws and DC is circling the drain. What do we really know about these companies? Does the shitposting drones and cucks fling at each other have merit or are they all baseless memes and assumptions? I wish for all of us to understand.

Again, I'm not trying to start shit.
I'm just tired of seeing the same copypastad posts and I want to actually delve into the root of company wars and see who has what and who doesn't.

Lunatick
Lunatick

I'll post what little images I have to stir the pot

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

What the fuck is even going on in this thread anymore?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Crazy_Nice
The fuck? Why would Watermelon Hotpockets ban the OP for that? I know Redwood's a mongoloid, but c'mon.

idontknow
idontknow

@Soft_member
3rd image
Do they realize most of those movies have much small budgets than BvS?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@cum2soon
Redwood's gone m8

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@SomethingNew
Look like a cuckchanner got banned for a company wars thread, so he decided to shitpost here.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Sharpcharm
Guilty as charged there

We can still have a thread though, right?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Films (which the comics are just IP farms for these days, because fuck having a medium stand on it's own, apparently): Marvel are way ahead, they're basically printing money. I expect Avengers 3 will begin the downturn (because, if the trend is anything to go on, it'll be the same fucking movie they've already done twice), and phase 4 will probably peter out unfinished. There will be one high-profile star quitting (and comic fans will chimp out over it for fucking decades) which will finally nail the coffin. And we might get some more RDJ Sherlock, at last.
DC: Fucked.

Comics:
Marvel: Fucked. Diverthity is doing nothing for them, but all the major comics news sites are pozzed as fuck, and victims of their own propaganda. Will go reprint only before 2026
DC: Fucked. "Grimdark = mature" rules the day. Diverthity is attempted, but they aren't insane enough to copy Marvel, and pay the price on the pozzed news sites. They hint at maybe possibly attempting to slightly insert conservative values in one or two titles, with predictable chimpery. Will go reprint-only before 2026

King_Martha
King_Martha

@BinaryMan
I expect Marvel to hold out longer since they have the Star Wars license and didn't fuck the market nearly as bad as DC.

DC is basically going into reprints RIGHT NOW. They're releasing a ton of collections, much of it shit you never thought they would ever collect, like Cass Batgirl and the fucking PREZ. Convergence has fucking killed DC and I don't have much optimism for the upcoming Rebirth saving it.

Bleeding Cool postulated that the Chinese Superman book they're coming out with is a ploy to get some of Red China's money. If that's true, comics will be as fucked as the movies.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@hairygrape
He's a /tv/ mod now.

5mileys
5mileys

@hairygrape
Redwood's gone m8
@happy_sad
He's a /tv/ mod now.

Oh. I always figured he'd kill himself when Moot finally died from AIDS.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@King_Martha
I'm still fucking amazed that they're calling it Rebirth, do they not see how ironic that is?

Inmate
Inmate

@5mileys
It was actually his ban that made me leave cuckchan during the fourth or fifth exodus, I think. I posted this in his "Based Boyega general" before episode 7 came out.

The exodus I left in was one of the later ones since I wasn't involved with GG and didn't want to use this broken-ass site right away.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Spamalot
Isn't Iran the place where you get hit with rocks until you die if you're gay and you get your hand chopped off if you touch an apple without paying? This lady probably visited the friendly tourist approved Iran with fancy hotels and Starbucks. She never went to any Indiana Jones esque bazaars where women are plucked off of the street.

@TalkBomber
I am posting my shit trash that was rejected at cuckchan, so I'll let you guys deal with it here.

No. This isn't a fucking chanlite that you only come to when you get rejected. It's either here or there, and you've made your choice.
Secondly, pretty much all comics from the big two are shit now. No one's going to fight over Marvel vs DC nowadays the same way no one's going to argue the benefits over being shot to death instead of drowning. I'm tired of cuckchan tourists coming here and leaving their shit everywhere because they still need validation and are desperate to talk to someone. Fuck off back to your shitpile

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Lunatick
@Garbage Can Lid
@Spamalot
@girlDog

I have become the physical embodiment of rage.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

DC has some smart ideas, non-cape comics like Gotham Academy and larger focus on reprints, but it's halfharted at them and still can't realize what its audience has been telling it for years.

King_Martha
King_Martha

When you say big two you may as well be talking about the whole of comics.
what's really going on?
Just blatantly pointing out all the flaws wouldn't be fun and it wouldn't offer alternatives as expediently.
Instead I'm going to describe what a manga is.

One way a lot of people were introduced to manga was though a subscription service known as "Shonen Jump".
It was a collection of several issues of black and white comic all rolled into one big book numbering close to 300 pages per issue for $26 a year.
Advertisements exist between each individual story and not all throughout the story itself like only some kind of a retarded kikestine would do.
Practically every manga published in it eventually got their own animated series and merchandise.
Manga has a multitude of genre but shonen jump was particularly aimed at boys with the word shonen literally meaning the word boy.
I think tumblarinas would flip their flapjack titties if comic publishers had a boy specific imprint.
One great thing about manga is that when the cartoonist or Mangaka finishes their story then ==THE STORY IS FUCKING FINISHED== .
Animation studios can make all the fanfic filler they want but when the writer stops the comic is dead.
If you want to use them you do a Watchmen and make facsimiles.
Imagine if comics worked like that.
There would be so many Batmen derivatives or more accurately derivatives of whatever Batman inspired characters Moore and Miller would have made.
There would probably be a thriving comic book industry if there was creative freedom and creator ownership.
Imagine if consumers were forced to take chances but publishers had to cultivate some kind of par of quality as to what they publish to help facilitate them.

A manga more commonly takes the form of a tankobon.
The going rate right now is $12 for about 180 pages of black and white story.
A great thing about the black and white aspect is you don't have some piss-poor colorist ruining an artists art.
Another great thing is how you don't need to buy a bag & board.
They're so perfectly uniform and compact they can sit right on DVD shelf with any games, DVD's or Blu-rays you may have.
They can have drawings of tiddies and nobody flips the fuck out about it.
You don't have to look up a reading order and there are no real cross overs.

Another form manga can take is an omnibus where an entire manga's run or at least 3 issues are all rolled into one big bible of a book.
Price and page count are pretty static but they're pretty neat and some still manage to sit on a DVD shelf like the Magic Knights Rayearth omnibus.

Imagine if the creator of the character was the only one who could ruin it for the most part?
No fiction based affirmative action race/sex lifting shit unless that creator intended for it.
Naturally publishers would still publish comics by PoCs and women and such so as to not look bigoted.
I think it would be great.
That dream is unfucking obtainable so long as cape shit lives.

askme
askme

@Soft_member
Holy shit that last 3rd image is so autistic.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Inmate
That thread fucking triggered me. I never know how high the cuckoldry levels on halfchan could go.

SniperWish
SniperWish

/4chan/index.html
Fuck off faggot

WebTool
WebTool

28 replies
All samefag

This is some dedication

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@hairygrape
@cum2soon
Can't tell the difference between redtext and an actual red ban
Please leave and never come back.

Methshot
Methshot

@King_Martha

So you basically want Metal Hurlant/Heavy Metal or 2000ad then?

MPmaster
MPmaster

@WebTool
Expecting cuckchan tourists to be decent
I'd deport them on sight if I could

Skullbone
Skullbone

@King_Martha
a comic's finality/creator ownership = quality and freedom
using manga as an example
Seriously though, suggesting the manga anthology format would be some sort of salvation is pretty stupid, seeing as the market is barely able to accommodate the presence of 2000AD and Heavy Metal.

Like it or not, anthologies are generally for snobs that already read comics and have no problem shelling out for a collection of stories they may or may not like. There's a reason Shonen Jump went digital stateside.

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