Were american slaves really bred to be strong

Flameblow
Flameblow

I sometimes read here that the descendants of the african-american slaves in the United States are physically superior because they were bred for labor by their owners.

But I don't think this is true. I believe most white people were ok with owning a normal black slave who chopped their wood or picked their cotton. I don't think many people were interested in breeding super niggers.

What do you think?

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5mileys
5mileys

Just observe the prevalence of negros in the major American sports like football and basketball; sports that require a lot of stamina and strength. If we can no longer enslave negros in America, then we'll parody them like clowns in the media and in sports to make the powerful white 1% more wealthy.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@5mileys
Just observe the prevalence of negros in the major American sports like football and basketball; sports that require a lot of stamina and strength
Is that why they can't swim and Kenyans win so many marathons?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

trying to make yourself feel superior as the "master race"
You don't fear death.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@VisualMaster
teaching a nigger to swim so he can just swim away from the plantation
not knowing Jungle Bunnies get chased by Cheetas and the slowest ones are eaten

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

implying snow niggers practiced selective breeding on niggers

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Booteefool
implying artificial selection isn't stronger than natural selection
Just look at how incapable the vast majority of african americans are of functioning as independent actors in society, if that's not a result of breeding for dependence, I don't know what is.

RavySnake
RavySnake

better at football
better at basketball
better at baseball
better at tennis
better at golf
better at boxing
better at dominating the white man's daughter
Cumskins can't even oppress right

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@RavySnake
better at dominating the white man's daughter

kek

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Flameblow
not intentionally

slavers only bought the strongest healthiest slaves from africa because no one wants some scrawny diseased nigger

on the ships ill niggers went the fuck over board leaving only the best for market

obviously any nigger allowed to breed would have been among the best

takes2long
takes2long

@Booteefool
@RavySnake
quality posts/10

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Flameblow

People only bought the best niggers, and the lowest tier of niglet always died in the ship. Obviously when someone specificallly picks the strongest and healthiest nigger when searching for a slave their children also inherit that.

Niggers are also naturally stronger than whites, supernigger slave or not

@RavySnake

cumskin

kek

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

I think that the person in your pic is British and has nothing to do with America apart from being starred in an American TV show.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@RavySnake
American football isn't actually football, and correct me if I'm wrong, but the only successful non-white golf-player is Tiger Woods.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Flameblow
Mods please delete this image.

Playboyize
Playboyize

It has jack shit to do with slavery, and it's simply that Africans evolved to be physically superior because that's what their environment required. In the same way whites developed superior intellect because we needed to plan for the Winter and shit rather than running around a desert chasing a gazelle with a spear.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Playboyize
This. Selective breeding would have been a lot of work for little benefit, since it takes at least fifteen years for a human male to be useful for physical labor.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Flameblow
Hey O.P. This is part of the whole "super nigger" argument intended to make you feel physically inferior to groids.

It's bullshit.

It takes generations for traits to "breed true" and be reliablely pasted on.

Do you know how long a human generation is? Do you really think there was a consistent breeding selection program for she-boons that lasted five hundred years?

Human being don't do any consistently for five hundred years.

@5mileys
More super nigger myths. Using outliers as a examples of the entire population. Not every black is a NBA pro.

In fact.. as a general population, black children are more likely to be overweight, diabetic, and asthmatic. So much for your super niggers who can jump three stories, punch through a concrete wall and rape you to death with a meter long penis.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/585206_4

http://minorityhealth.hhs.gov/omh/browse.aspx?lvl=4&lvlid=15

Your average ghetto niggers is a fat fuck who cannot run a mile to save it's worthless life.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@viagrandad
TV show.
But this logic, White Australians should be the toughest fuckers on the planet.. their ancestors survived a longer harsher boat ride while being deported to Australia.

and no one had a vested interest in them surviving the trip because they weren't a profitable cargo.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Stark_Naked
b-but muh dick ;_;

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Nojokur
slaves were mostly worked to death
it was cheaper to buy new ones than look after the old.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Nude_Bikergirl
White Australians should be the toughest fuckers on the planet.
they are, mate

farquit
farquit

Good question, on the surface it does certainly seem implausible that slaveowners selectively bred their slaves to the point where superior physical traits were established. That said, there is a little more to the question than meets the eye.

Firstly, bear in mind how these slaves ame to be in the americas. They were sold to traders in (mostly) african states, then floated across the atlantic in very spartan conditions. This is relevant for two main reasons:

the people being traded as slaves were people that had been selected by traders
the slaves that actually made it to the americas were the ones that survived the trip

So it seems very likely from this that only the most resilient/strong/healthy slaves were making it to the new world.

Once in the americas it is likely that slaves were selectively bred to some degree - the process would have been more than familiar to the plantation owners, and there is some evidence to suggest this went on. It's also worth remembering that traits can be selectively bred into populations surprisingly quickly. even in a very small number of generations (see the fox breeding programs in russia and other examples).

With all this in mind it is effectively certain that a degree of change or selective breeding in slave populations went on, however, the degree to which this effects modern populations is debatable for two main reasons:

genetic diversity among humans is very, very low to begin with compared with almost all other species, therefore comparisons with other animals selectively bred are not really comparable, as there is less diversity to select from.
the modern black populations all have significant numbers of white and other ethnicity in their family trees and genetic makeup. In a very simplistic sense we can see this from the fact that blacks in the US do not look like the subsaharan africans the slaves would predominantly have been.

Final point I would make is that the "strongest" or healthiest populations from a biological standpoint are typically those with the greatest genetic diversity in them. With this in mind it is possible that populations in places like the US that have ancestors from several ethnic backgrounds are "healthier" biologically speaking than more isolated/inbred populations.

tldr: it's very complicated to answer, but there is a degree of truth in it, but the point to which it is practically relevant is very debatable.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

thinking slave life is hard
thinking its comparable to living in the mountains like the poor irish

Imagine doing everything a slave does, but also dodging indians and bears and fucking cougars all while covered by snow. Blacks had it easy.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Crazy_Nice
How would you know this?

And that's stupid.

I am more than sure, slaves were more expensive to replace than to buy new.
That's like saying, used cars are more expensive than buying brand new.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Stark_Naked
Do you really think there was a consistent breeding selection program for she-boons that lasted five hundred years?
Fun fact: according to my research, it would take only 1000 years to breed genders out of existence and thus end feminism and rape forever.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Spamalot
there's a well known transcript from the London assizes, shortly after abolition in the english colonies. the plantation owner, accused of abuse, explains in detail and with costs why, on, the sugar plantations, turn over was so high.
look it up

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Spamalot
slaves were more expensive to replace than to buy new.
2 poorly fed slaves, properly whipped, would carry/dig/harvest more/at lower cost in their 10 yr life span than would 1 well fed nigger over 20 yrs.
what's so stupid?
a slave child had to be fed and raised for 10 yrs before he/she could work. one off the boat started after a slice of watermelon and a march to the fields.
What's so difficult to grasp?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

No they were not bred.

1. There's not much you do in 10 generations of in-breeding with humans, even if this were the case.

2. Masters wrote about how exceptionally difficult it was to regulate Negro sexual behavior and reproduction. (Many had to let their slaves go free because they could no longer afford to feed all the children.)

3. Afro-Americans slaves were the descendants of Africans already enslaved by other Africans. It happened to turn out that larger, more athletic tribes tended to lose wars against smaller, smarter tribes, so it was the larger Africans who were slaves already.

4. American collegiate and professional sports are a heavily skewed sample: many young whites stay away from athletics because of a deeper interest in academics, while young blacks take to athletics because they struggle with academics. Also many young white athletes grow out of their pursuit of major professional sports because it's such a crapshoot. There are hundreds of thousands of failed black athletes who never amount to anything, while failed white athletes assume careers.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Nude_Bikergirl
I bet a stock nigger from american and a roo fucker from aussy can go toe to toe.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Need_TLC
#4 Doesn't make sense as usually all pro athletes tend to go to better colleges and have great gpa's

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Erp

likme
likme

@Flameblow
decendants of african-american slaves in the United States are physically superior

Well I find it very hard to believe pure homo sapiens sapiens could ever hope to match up with the homo sapiens sapiens, homo sapiens neanderthals crossbreed that Europeans are.

Did you know that a non-Caucasian has never won the World's Strongest Man competition? There have been black competitors, but they have never won once. Not only has a non-white ever won WSM, but also all world record totals in the IPF from 180 lbs- 400 lbs. are by white men. I would expect since homo sapiens sapiens were endurance hunters that black people would most likely be more endurance athletes than strength athletes. Neanderthals were ambush predators that rushed their prey and killed them by force instead of running them down over long periods of time like homo sapiens sapiens.

Honestly though, race and genetics don't really mean shit when it comes to strength. It is more about personal dedication, having copious amounts of willpower, time, and eating a fuck ton.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Flameblow
Perhaps it wasn't a conscious decision, but slave niggers did certainly adapt to the harsh conditions of slave life. The ones who couldn't adapt to working fields every day would die.

Niggers were artificially selected to be good at picking cotton.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Do bears shit in the woods OP? Where do you think all these super niggers in America came from, Africa?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Flameblow
At its highest, only 1 percent of Americans owned slaves.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Harmless_Venom
Why does every problem we have go back to the 1%?

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Spamalot
because the other 99% don't have enough money to cause any problems.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

All we need to do now is breed white man's intellect into the negro populace and soon we'll have the true master race.

The future is caramel.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Firespawn
That's a funny answer but it's faulty.
However it's late, so i've got two options, either i spend time and effort to poke holes in what you just said and continue the discussion in this thread by adding one more interesting post, or i can just go jack off and then sleep.
So i think i wi

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Nude_Bikergirl
So i think i wi

Candlejack, no! He didn't even say candleja

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Lord_Tryzalot
snow nigger
I actually like this one. Other attempts at racial skurs for whites have sucked. Cum skin, cracker, etc. I mean we have sweet slurs for different groups of whites, but its important to have broader slurs as well.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Nude_Bikergirl
You're wrong. Tiger isn't non-white. He's Half & Half.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@5mileys
Human beings are just like dogs. It's true
Every breed has something to offer.

Whites are intelligence, yet weak
Blacks are stupid, yet strong

It's a trade-off.

Funny enough, I heard somewhere that the reason why blacks don't suffer from dental problems so much was because of the fact that they never developed a tangible civilization. They spent their time hunting and constantly on the move thought out the safari, as a result from their high protein diet and nomadic existence, they grow strength bodies with healthy teeth.

Whites settled down, planted crops and cut down on their intake of proteins severely. Their teeth began to rot, yet their minds grow cause of the constant problems faced tending to their homestead. Soon enough , they developed civilization while blacks were still bare ass hunting bush meat.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@iluvmen
You can't keep recycling "nigger" forever.

The injuns got it right with "paleface"

King_Martha
King_Martha

implying natural selection didn't do that first in the jungles of africa and then even worse on the plantations of the american south, only the strong niggers survived in slavery, the ones that got sick died, the ones that broke down or got injured died, the strong niggers were left in the slave houses and at night would knock up sheboons so eventually you had a high endurance nigger with ugly as fuck women because only hardy bitches survived not pretty ones.

This was only done over about 5 generations but very severe selection mounted ontop of millennia of hard living in Africa and you got a shit load of hardy niggers, most american niggers have at least one white ancestor in their 6-12 generations in america now and that increased their IQ by 20-50%, the average IQ of subsaharan africa is about 48 and the average white american IQ at the time was over 80 but slave owners weren't known for being stupid so we can guess these folks were easily all over a 100 IQ.

Eugenics was developed s a result of the observation of natural selection among slaves.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Boy_vs_Girl
Funny enough, I heard somewhere that the reason why blacks don't suffer from dental problems so much was because of the fact that they never developed a tangible civilization.
Funny, I’m maximum white and my teeth don’t rot. And I haven’t cleaned my teeth for 10 years. Am I the master race – an upgraded version of white people – already?

I’m also smart enough to post on Leeky Forums and I cum profusely. I’m willing to share my blessings with the public. Who wants my cum?

SniperGod
SniperGod

Everyone became silent after my post.

Embarrassed?

Envious?

Is the nation going to punish me for my hubris?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Flameblow

One thing to remember is that there are two types of nigger. The west Africans and the east Africans.

The east Africans got enslaved by the Arabs throughout pretty much all of history. But the arabs castrated their slaves so they never had the problems America does with slave descendents.
The east Africans are the marathon runners. You will never see an east African win the 100m sprint.

In the west. Instead of selling captured enemies to slavers, they cooked and ate them. That was until the western slave trade was established and we started buying slaves off them.
The west Africans are the sprinters. You will never see a west African win a marathon.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@King_Martha

Hmm interesting theory on why black girls are ugly.

I wonder were there any African countries that did not have slavery?
By your logic they should have less ugly women.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Stark_Naked
In fact.. as a general population, black children are more likely to be overweight, diabetic, and asthmatic.
Does that take into account they are on average way poorer and hence get shit diet?

Your average ghetto niggers is a fat fuck who cannot run a mile to save it's worthless life.
*its
(also *nigger but that one I am sure was just a mistake rather than an error)

massdebater
massdebater

@VisualMaster
Too poor to receive swimming lesson. Generations of living on flat plains at high altitude.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Blacks genetically are more able to create muscle on average. They're also more aggressive and less intelligent on average. This goes back way way further than slavery in the America's. They trace their genetic code to a divergent ancestor almost 100k years back vs whites and asians.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Firespawn
half-white when they're successful, smokin' black when they're not

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