Critical flaw in humanity exploited to make slavery

Methnerd
Methnerd

Women believe ANYTHING they hear in the social sphere they grow up in.

About the changed nature of women:

From having to watch over others constantly since the beginning of humanity, they became selfless. Because they were so close to all the needs and wants of their people, they developed the instinct to trust them absolutely and a true understanding of their people was taken for granted.
When they were relieved of many responsibilities to their people by the 'modernization' of society the trait of selflessness became hollow and so turned to nothing but self-unawareness, leaving the instinct to implicitly trust their social sphere intact to be turned to purposes other than what made it to begin with.

About the media:

The media gives people who have had their purpose in life precluded and destroyed ideas to fill their heads with. It makes the submissive more so. It gives direction to society. It supersedes literary culture, but it rips out aspects of it and feeds them in accessible ways to the submissive and unmotivated (99.99% of everyone on this forum).

Men and women were never fundamentally different in their minds. This has allowed for the feminization of our boys through the media. Even men who are heterosexual have taken on many traits of women, most importantly the tendency to believe anything they hear.
"Feminism" is the device which promotes the homogenizing of the sexes. It is the masculinization of women and the feminization of men.
By making women and men interchangable in all roles, men will be more likely to follow the example of a woman, and women will be more likely to follow the example of a man. This makes a man take on traits of a woman, and so he becomes more submissive and so he is a better slave to his master. This makes a woman take on traits of a man, and she becomes more active and so she is a better slave to her master.

Considering the addition of 'the media' to the general social sphere, with all of its inherent falsehoods, the women and feminized men go absolutely insane; completely turned against their own nature.
Their nurturing instincts are used to nurture the interests of the upper classes as handed down from the media rather than those of the actual people they see and interact with every day, even their own children.
Instead of being warm with compassion they are cold with judgements calculated from the information they are brainwashed with.

So it is that women and feminized men are the primary tool of the upper classes to control us all. People will do anything for their people, and so they accept ideas that are counter to the interest freedom just to connect to their people. So it is that love is turned against us and the very foundation of our existence is betrayed.

This is the great vulnerability in the mind of the human that is exploited to make civilization by slavery.

Almost every single one of you is feminized. You have abandoned reason. You adopt ideas just to try to fit into society some how. Your emotions are overwhelming. They are created, maintained, and triggered by the media. They are in control of your thought process.

You need to isolate yourselves from this madness. You need to break your addiction to the media. Stop reading the news. Stop caring about "politics". You do not have the ability to interpret any of this. You are putting the cart before the horse. You need to build a legitimate program of education for yourself.

You need to take stock of your instincts, of your genetics, and build an interface to modern society. You need to attend to your personal health.
Stop being dismissive of anything that doesn't immediately please you. Being bored is the utmost state of stupidity. You do not need to be entertained, you need to discipline yourself.
Read good translations of the classics. Look for real art that has an original/unique message. Engage in independent thought. Make essays [art] to describe your ideas and share them with others.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CdlQte8oxA
TurtleCat
TurtleCat

I'll give you a bump before I read because this looks like you put effort into it.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

you are not wise. stop trying.

idontknow
idontknow

isolate ourselves from this madness

Hopefully OP, hopefully

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Methnerd
Women believe ANYTHING they hear in the social sphere they grow up in.

That's not exclusive to women.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Sharpcharm
My friend, try reading the whole post

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Sharpcharm
read the post….

Lunatick
Lunatick

Already have been in the process of doing this. 6 years now. The modern interface was beaten out of me through extensive psychological trauma.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Sharpcharm
Yes it is faggot.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

I suggest you study the behavioral sciences, history, logic, philosophy, and evolution before classical literature. It will help you focus your very broad thesis.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Do what I did, cripple the television and don't let the women use your internet connected computer without your direct supervision. It'll severely limit the misinformation circulating in the minds of the female members of the immediate family.

5mileys
5mileys

Modern man is not merely feminized. That is nonsense. Modern man is too civilized. That's his major problem. He is arrogant, egotistical, too diplomatic, thinks himself enlightened for holding liberal and cosmopolitan ideals, and believes something like reacting violently is always boorish behaviour and thus beneath him. In his drunken madness to be more civilized he has let go of his women and thereby handed them over to be guided by hook-nosed goblins. Still desiring females, he ends up following the subverted girls in hopes of fulfilling his sexual desires, and so society as a whole lands itself in the ditch because that is where they are being guided towards. People are not sober but drunken by their own self-righteousness and spoon-fed, sugarcoated ideals. They are too "civilized" for their own good. When civilization exists for its own sake it will leave its people in the dust to be ravaged by barbarians.

TreeEater
TreeEater

what we need to do is travel to europe and stay on some farms / go camping together
you are right, op: many of us are damaged (spiritually, emotionally, mentally, etc.)
this would be ideal for helping our fellow bros out and building up ourselves

why do i say europe, though?
because this year is the year normies will understand globalism and join the kulturkampf.
i say europe because shit is going to go down this year, and europe always will be our priority.

many of us feel powerless. most of us just want a slice of peace away from this toxic world and a family to love. this is still the destiny of most of us.
however in terms of power and possibility: the best / most effective thing any of us can do with the position we find ourselves in (rp'd) is to inform and wake up our people.

there is literally no greater calling for us than this

might have under-articulated myself: i can expand on this on request

farquit
farquit

@GoogleCat
If i had to choose who was wiser between op and the faggot who tries to bring down a post whilst contributing nothing…op wins. everytime.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

I liked your post, OP.

I've found myself doing something similar since [CURRENT YEAR] began. I ignore the news except for local news in my city, and I've been browsing Leeky Forums less and less. I still keep in mind the things I've learned from Leeky Forums and try to apply them in my life and spread it to other people, but with a reduced influence of Leeky Forums in my life I'm honestly much more happy.

I'm just busy trying to rebuild myself as a person after spending the last few years destroying my old self. Building a better me out of the rubble, decadence, and strife of the past. Building a better me so I can build a better world for any future children I have.

I can't change the whole world, I'm just one man. But I can change the little part of it I live in. Enough small people doing the same thing individually can make a big difference…the smallest snowflake on a leaf, so to say.

Say what you want about that cunt Gandhi, he was on the right track with that quote of his, "be the change you want to see in the world".

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Methnerd

Politics = Religion and Government = Culture = Race = You and your future – never let fancy words bluepill you Leeky Forums

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

The separation of religion and state, has caused a new religion of the state.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Methnerd
This is a great post.
Being bored is the utmost state of stupidity
I don't even want to reply it's so good.

Thank you for posting user

Lunatick
Lunatick

From having to watch over others constantly since the beginning of humanity, they became selfless.

Stopped reading there.

Blue pill nonsense. Women have never been "selfless" and female nature has not "changed."

Women have always put themselves first and will kill or allow their offspring and men to be killed by whatever stronger males that come along.

This ingrained trait is apologetically referred to as "Stockholm syndrome" but it is not a pathological response to stress, it is normal female operation and the basis for the attraction to "bad boys" and blacks.

Nojokur
Nojokur

(capped)

@Lunatick
selfless does not mean not selfish. Women are selfish, of course, but they also lack a concrete concept of self. They are more receptors than they are creators and defenders. Women's definition of themself is more often accepted from someone else than created. I think that's what he means by it. Read the rest of it.

likme
likme

@Methnerd

The news is nothing but made-up propaganda, to instill fear and division in the moron masses. It's all theatre.

Techpill
Techpill

@Methnerd
Women believe ANYTHING they hear in the social sphere they grow up in.
I guess that explains religion

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

and so he becomes more submissive and so he is a better slave to his master.

They have created psychological eunuchs

Playboyize
Playboyize

@New_Cliche
The separation of religion and state, has caused a new religion of the state.
Can't be any worse then the normal religions

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Nojokur
but they also lack a concrete concept of self
You gotta be fucking kidding me, are you honestly this much of a white knight??? All the average women can talk about is herself

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@MPmaster
Chill

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Stop caring about "politics".
You need to build a legitimate program of education for yourself.

I like the basis of your post, but this part is flawed. You see we are not legally able to do this, build a legitimate program of education for yourself.

I am well educated, I am smart. My family is aware of the medias falsehoods.
How can I educate my fellow Aryans without telling the enemy Jews and getting shut down?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@BinaryMan

Lurk more, read the stickies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CdlQte8oxA

@lostmypassword

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Methnerd
(99.99% of everyone on this forum).

How's it feel to be so smug, Smuggy McSmuggamsz?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

From having to watch over others constantly since the beginning of humanity, they became selfless
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LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@5mileys
nonsense
semantics warrior
All of those traits you describe are in tradition predominantly female traits

@ZeroReborn
@kizzmybutt
@Lunatick
@Nude_Bikergirl
So you have no refutation then?
Blue pill. How could the blue pill be anything other than accepting snippets of information emotionally instead of engaging careful thought?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Methnerd
From having to watch over others constantly since the beginning of humanity, they became selfless.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@LuckyDusty
you have no refutation then?
here:

u r a faggot

Illusionz
Illusionz

Stop caring about "politics".
Nice try psyop Shlomo. 7,6/10

More luck next time. Enjoy SAGE.

idontknow
idontknow

@Illusionz
"politics" is what we see here. Endless circlejerking. Taking everything the media presents at face value. A complete lack of critical thought. Idiots spewing ideas they copied directly from some where in order to try to convince themselves they fit in to something. Trying to use an academic discipline to assuage their bleeding emotions from their complete lack of discipline. Idolizing the cartoon characters that are the personas which the hypocrite "politicians" put on to gain the attention of the retarded masses and draw out their reactions so their psyches can be analyzed to aid the decision of actual policy.

Politics is what these idiots only believe they are dealing with. Things that actually matter and decide actual policy. The movements of society that deeply affect the way of life of people who follow it. This is something you need true education to deal with. You need to study philosophy and logic to temper your objectivity and to forge a solid view of the world. You need to study rhetoric to find the truth behind the words of the hypocrites. You need to study the sciences to measure the forces that drive economics. You need to study economics to study the forces that drive the motions of society.
Of course this is a lot to take on for some one who has given up hope. Of course taking real action to improve things is dangerous to the established form of society. So we have 'shills' like this come and feebly try to defend the apparatus of intellectual degeneration.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@LuckyDusty
no refutation
We're not debating. I suggested you do the necessary study of relevant subjects to refine your model of society. It reads like you're a confused teenager at this point, but that's constructive criticism. You could be on the right track if you don't spend all day ogling the plastic arts and acting like a first year student. Your choice.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@New_Cliche
So do you have any support for your statements? Any critical thought?

If I really try to get at your meaning, it seems like you are asking me to write a book here, to polish this up for publication.

I'm not aware of any tradition of such academic support for posts here.

What it seems like to me is that you have no actual criticism and you are just expressing hurt feelings over what I have to say about the average user of this board.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@idontknow
I apologize. It looks like I misread the "". You are correct in that regard. Politics is an IRL illusion.

To give you a question in line with the state of Leeky Forums in the recent 7 months.
How do you view Trump? Another "politician" or a (knowledgeable) businessman sent from heaven?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

bump. come on does anyone have any criticism or anything to add?

Spamalot
Spamalot

This is the kind of autistic pseudo-intellectualism that gives Leeky Forums a bad name.

Women believe ANYTHING they hear in the social sphere they grow up in.

Prove it. Prove that this is specific to women.

From having to watch over others constantly since the beginning of humanity, they became selfless. Because they were so close to all the needs and wants of their people, they developed the instinct to trust them absolutely and a true understanding of their people was taken for granted.

women
selfless

Kek.

When they were relieved of many responsibilities to their people by the 'modernization' of society the trait of selflessness became hollow and so turned to nothing but self-unawareness, leaving the instinct to implicitly trust their social sphere intact to be turned to purposes other than what made it to begin with.

So women trust people naturally, and they still do, but they are unaware now because of modernization and there used to be things they were aware of…

This is what is called "not even wrong", a string of logic so meaningless that it can't even be addressed other than to state it is so. It's like saying "modernization turned women into brainwash harmony with dolphins and therefor destruction".

The media gives people who have had their purpose in life precluded and destroyed ideas to fill their heads with. It makes the submissive more so. It gives direction to society. It supersedes literary culture, but it rips out aspects of it and feeds them in accessible ways to the submissive and unmotivated (99.99% of everyone on this forum).

What "purpose in life precluded and destroyed"? What ideas? When were people less submissive? How does submissive mean anything to you but "not following my retarded ideology in which I imagine myself a genius and therefor not cool" ?

Men and women were never fundamentally different in their minds

You just said women evolved to be fundamentally different from men.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Spamalot
You have provided no refutation for any claim of mine. If what you perceive to be my "ideology" is so "retarded", surely it would be easy for some one so wise as you to provide the simplest refutation? Why have you failed to do this in such a lengthy response? All you do is ask so many questions. The implication is that you wish to learn from me. But you are so rude. Do you have no education? What is the source of your arrogance?

Calm down, stop being rude, and learn.

Prove it. Prove that this is specific to women.
I never stated such I thing as you imply that I have.
The root of your concern is clearly addressed

a string of logic so meaningless that it can't even be addressed other than to state it is so
You speak as though everyone has your disabilities

What "purpose in life precluded and destroyed"? What ideas? When were people less submissive?
You have wasted a lot of breath before coming to your questions, and continue to waste breath after asking. You lack a basic education. You are ignorant of the nature of civilization. I will address these questions and try to encourage the start of your education.

You just said women evolved to be fundamentally different from men.
No.
You imply that having a unique subset of instincts makes one fundamentally different. You do not address the quantification and weighing of these instincts (while this judgement is valuable to my assertions I further assert it is not necessary to support my assertions). You imply that a difference in form is a fundamental difference in being. You do not define what is and is not fundamental. Your objection is easily deflected. Because you do not articulate the implications of your objection, I will not refute them.

You fail to display literacy and read what your uncontrolled emotion forces you to read. You are clearly upset by my accurate judgement of the average user of this forum especially because it applies to you well.

Now for your questions that came from this statement:
The media gives people who have had their purpose in life precluded and destroyed ideas to fill their heads with.

Happiness comes from a way of life. A way of life comes from purpose. Purpose comes from will. Will comes from emotion and reason. Emotion comes the reaction of the body to the world. Reason comes from the reaction of human essence [intelligence and wisdom] to emotion, and so it's nature is to dominate emotion.
The predominant tasks of men and women respectively are to deal with reason and emotion. When men lose reason, their people lose purpose. When women lose emotion, their people lose purpose.
Men lose reason when their will is dominated. Their will is dominated when the force of their will is overcome by the force of another will.
Women lose emotion when their will is dominated. Their will depends on the will of their men because they are more deficient in reason than men are deficient in emotion. So when the will of their men is dominated, their own will is dominated.

It is easy to see that civilization is built from the pattern of the domination of one will over others. Instead of allowing those whose will was broken [its function is destroyed; the way of life is disrupted] to die, they are supported so that they may serve the stronger will. In order to perpetuate servitude, the necessities for re-forming the broken will are precluded by the dominating will as well as may be without providing enough for the reformation of the broken will.

A way of life creates a unique set genetic characteristics. Domination interrupts this way of life. Even after the way of life is interrupted, its pattern is still present in the genetics of the dominated. The consciousness of the ideas of that way of life is suspended, but the instincts made from those ideas remain. The preservation of the instincts requires consciousness of the ideas to remain intact, though because the instinct comes from the solidity of genetics, it is slow to be weathered away. The preservation of the being depends on the preservation function of these instincts. So substitutes must be approximated and supplied by the dominating will to keep the whole being of the dominated functioning to some degree in order to serve the dominating will. The media provides such substitutes for ideas for the sustenance of the mind. Agriculture provides such substitutes for foods and drinks for the sustenance of the body. Indeed every industry supplies such substitutes. But these substitutes are not only designed to sustain, but to foster growth in a particular direction.
The aspects of the dominating will are imposed in this way so that an approximation of the dominating will grows in the dominated.
[The more perfect the approximation, the higher in the hierarchy the subject tend to rise.]

I'll have to leave it at that for now.

w8t4u
w8t4u

I made a mistake in assembling my notes. This version will read better:

Happiness comes from a way of life. A way of life comes from purpose. Purpose comes from will. Will comes from emotion and reason. Emotion comes the reaction of the body to the world. Reason comes from the reaction of human essence [intelligence and wisdom] to emotion, and so it's nature is to dominate emotion.

The predominant tasks of men and women respectively are to deal with reason and emotion. When men lose reason, their people lose purpose. When women lose emotion, their people lose purpose.

Men lose reason when their will is dominated. Their will is dominated when the force of their will is overcome by the force of another will.

Women lose emotion when their will is dominated. Their will depends on the will of their men because they are more deficient in reason than men are deficient in emotion. So when the will of their men is dominated, their own will is dominated.

It is easy to see that civilization is built from the pattern of the domination of one will over others. Instead of allowing those whose will was broken [its function is destroyed; the way of life is disrupted] to die, they are supported so that they may serve the stronger will. In order to perpetuate servitude, the necessities for re-forming the broken will are precluded by the dominating will as well as may be while providing enough for the preservation of the broken will to some degree.

A way of life creates a unique set genetic characteristics. Domination interrupts this way of life. Even after the way of life is interrupted, its pattern is still present in the genetics of the dominated. The consciousness of the ideas of that way of life is suspended, but the instincts made from those ideas remain. The preservation of the instincts requires consciousness of the ideas to remain intact, though because the instinct comes from the solidity of genetics, it is slow to be weathered away. The preservation of the being depends on the preservation function of these instincts. So substitutes must be approximated and supplied by the dominating will to keep the whole being of the dominated functioning to some degree in order to serve the dominating will. The media provides such substitutes for ideas for the sustenance of the mind. Agriculture provides such substitutes for foods and drinks for the sustenance of the body. Indeed every industry supplies such substitutes. But these substitutes are not only designed to sustain, but to foster growth in a particular direction.

The aspects of the dominating will are imposed in this way so that an approximation of the dominating will grows in the dominated.

[The more perfect the approximation, the higher in the hierarchy the subject tend to rise.]

Illusionz
Illusionz

If you're so sure the majority of /pol/acks act on emotion and reject rational argumentation, why are you trying to convince them to reject emotionality using reason?

If reason is your tool, wouldn't anyone who responded positively to your arguments already be able to reason?

girlDog
girlDog

@Spamalot
You are the one writing "kek". And you say others give Leeky Forums a bad name?

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Illusionz
Isn't it easy to answer your own question?
If I seem to say that this majority is completely dominated by emotion, I do so only to provoke them into showing they aren't. Not to say it isn't an overwhelming tendency in most.

Anyway, what you say assumes reasoning is an absolute. Obviously proportions of emotion and reason vary in all people.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@MPmaster
I do so only to provoke them into showing they aren't.

That's what we call bait, user.

The thing is, you're presuming at least a subset of people browsing Leeky Forums have a latent, unharnessed ability to self-improve. And I don't necessarily disagree with that premise. But I also don't think that anyone capable of operating on the level you prescribe, who isn't already, is going to be prodded into doing so because they were insulted or belittled on the internet.

Do you really want to change minds? You have to tempt people with a desired result, or demonstrate the positive results of putting in that effort. Telling people they're enslaved is not enough. We hear that all the time.

People just see you posting long-winded and autistic posts, scolding them that they "need to do" this and that, responding to banter with "not an argument." They will think "I don't want to be that guy," and they will reject your advice, no matter how rational.

Now, you can say those people are the emotional ones, and lost causes. But what percentage of people will you fail to convince before you try a different approach?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@GoogleCat
Hi Laurelai

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@RavySnake
wrong, she talks about what the media tells her that her "self" really is (which it isn't)

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

telling people not to watch the news mixing in fake Marshall Mcluhan larping the day Sandniggers piling into europe aloha snackbar the airport
OP pretending to not be a sliding shill

DeathDog
DeathDog

@New_Cliche
Opportunities often re-present themselves.
When doing something new, it cannot often be done in one stroke.

To be plain, I am trying to see how likely it is to try to break people off from the mainstream by tapping on their shame of being part of it.

I agree with everything you say. Except that there are lost causes. I have not said that.

But I do not know what can tempt all people to do what needs to be done for my purpose. I cannot calculate it yet. I have to find out more.
What else should I do?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

engage in independent thought

But how? I look within myself and find nothing.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@DeathDog
I am trying to see how likely it is to try to break people off from the mainstream by tapping on their shame of being part of it.

People are part of the mainstream because they get emotional validation from it. Shame works because it denies emotional validation, making the person feel like an outsider or pariah. An individual can't shame, it takes a community. You'd be working against the tide.

I agree with everything you say. Except that there are lost causes.
I do not know what can tempt all people to do what needs to be done

I think this is actually the crux of your problem, you expect too much of people. You're looking to make already-intelligent people motivated, and/or make already-motivated people think intelligently.

But everyone exists on multiple bell curves. So among the minority of people who are intelligent, most will fall into the less-motivated majority, and vice versa. The ones who are intelligent AND motivated have likely harnessed their power already. If you happen to find one who hasn't, and "activate" him, that's great and I encourage you to do so. But be aware, this will be an extreme outlier. There is no magic formula for creating ubermenschen.

I'm not a full 1488 guy, but there's a Hitler quote I found inspiring, which goes something like (I'm paraphrasing): "I use emotion on the many, and save reason for the few." Trying to reason with a crowd is a waste of resources.

Assume someone is unable to reason unless he demonstrates otherwise. Likewise, assume someone will not better himself unless he is currently in the act of doing so. And assume the majority can do neither.

There ARE lost causes out there. A lot of them. The sooner you realize that, the sooner you will find a winning strategy: engage people on their level, or narrow your search to those who already share your goals.

Checking those trips.

Spamalot
Spamalot

5503457
You have provided no refutation for any claim of mine. If what you perceive to be my "ideology" is so "retarded", surely it would be easy for some one so wise as you to provide the simplest refutation? Why have you failed to do this in such a lengthy response? All you do is ask so many questions. The implication is that you wish to learn from me. But you are so rude. Do you have no education? What is the source of your arrogance?

You're claim were vague, poorly worded and unexplained assertions that don't even follow from each other. There is nothing there that can even be addressed except by stressing this point and asking for substantion and reasoning.

You have wasted a lot of breath before coming to your questions, and continue to waste breath after asking. You lack a basic education. You are ignorant of the nature of civilization. I will address these questions and try to encourage the start of your education.

Are you in character now?
This sort of not even half-educated, autistic pseudo-intellectual posing is rarely seen outside of memes.

You imply that having a unique subset of instincts makes one fundamentally different. You do not address the quantification and weighing of these instincts (while this judgement is valuable to my assertions I further assert it is not necessary to support my assertions). You imply that a difference in form is a fundamental difference in being. You do not define what is and is not fundamental. Your objection is easily deflected. Because you do not articulate the implications of your objection, I will not refute them.

Inborn, evolved, biological differences in the behavior between men and women are fundamental differences in the distinction between men and womenn. This is not a matter of quantification and weighing, it is not mathematical. You claimed such distinctions, spin a line of reasoning that doesn't even follow from it and then went on to claim that there is a conspiracy that easily overrides those. I don't have to explain all the implications of this distinction, I simply stated that you contradict yourself with your biological views of behavior.

By going into the nature of being in whatever your version of that may be and asking me for my quantifications, weighing and all implications of it, and immensely broad philosophical subject, you are really only deflecting from me pointing out the contradiction between your biological determinism and conspiracies of subversion of this.

You fail to display literacy and read what your uncontrolled emotion forces you to read. You are clearly upset by my accurate judgement of the average user of this forum especially because it applies to you well.

No, I point out how your awfully written sperg tirade is a complete logical mess. That you read in brilliance in this is your lacking.

Happiness comes from a way of life. A way of life comes from purpose. Purpose comes from will. Will comes from emotion and reason. Emotion comes the reaction of the body to the world. Reason comes from the reaction of human essence [intelligence and wisdom] to emotion, and so it's nature is to dominate emotion.

This is laughably simple and wrong psychology, with again, nothing to substantiate it. You again create a string of reasoning of broad concepts without any argumentation for it, to come to a conclusion that doesn't even follow from that. It's a string of non-sequiturs. Happiness doesn't come from any specific thing. A way of life follows from that everything that lead to it. Will doesn't come from reason and emotion but is a general term for our wants that are made up of both. Emotions do indeed come from our interaction with the outside world -which is a complete non-point as everything in us does-, reason is the term given for our thinking, usually in a positive sense.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Flameblow
@Spamalot
(cont)
The predominant tasks of men and women respectively are to deal with reason and emotion When men lose reason, their people lose purpose. When women lose emotion, their people lose purpose. Men lose reason when their will is dominated. Their will is dominated when the force of their will is overcome by the force of another will. Women lose emotion when their will is dominated. Their will depends on the will of their men because they are more deficient in reason than men are deficient in emotion. So when the will of their men is dominated, their own will is dominated.

Another string of unsubstantiated, unspecific claims using broad terms that don't even follow from each other. This is not how argumentation works. What do you consider "losing reason"? who have reason, who lost it? when is it lost? is it something that can be lost and found? I can ask the same for your conception of ''will'.

It is easy to see that civilization is built from the pattern of the domination of one will over others. Instead of allowing those whose will was broken [its function is destroyed; the way of life is disrupted] to die, they are supported so that they may serve the stronger will. In order to perpetuate servitude, the necessities for re-forming the broken will are precluded by the dominating will as well as may be without providing enough for the reformation of the broken will.

It's easy to see for someone who seems to have taken his S&M fantasies as a theory of history and civilization. I require more agumentation for such extremely reductionist dialectic. Who are "those whose will was broken", who is "the stronger will"? how would they have died without the support from this stronger will?

You clearly aren't speaking of any actual, tangible people but of platonic forms, purposefully constructed stereotypes that inhibit your fantasies.

A way of life creates a unique set genetic characteristics. Domination interrupts this way of life. Even after the way of life is interrupted, its pattern is still present in the genetics of the dominated. The consciousness of the ideas of that way of life is suspended, but the instincts made from those ideas remain. The preservation of the instincts requires consciousness of the ideas to remain intact, though because the instinct comes from the solidity of genetics, it is slow to be weathered away. The preservation of the being depends on the preservation function of these instincts. So substitutes must be approximated and supplied by the dominating will to keep the whole being of the dominated functioning to some degree in order to serve the dominating will. The media provides such substitutes for ideas for the sustenance of the mind. Agriculture provides such substitutes for foods and drinks for the sustenance of the body. Indeed every industry supplies such substitutes. But these substitutes are not only designed to sustain, but to foster growth in a particular direction.
The aspects of the dominating will are imposed in this way so that an approximation of the dominating will grows in the dominated.
[The more perfect the approximation, the higher in the hierarchy the subject tend to rise.]

What "way of life"? When was domination not present in this way of life? When was it interrupted by domination? Who is this dominatrix that is behind everything?

You don't even provide a base for your strings of non-sequiturs to follow from. They are solely the musing of a completely servantile mind, who by his pathology, is simply incapable of seeing everything as the creation of an intangible dominatrix.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@TurtleCat
People are part of the mainstream because they get emotional validation from it. Shame works because it denies emotional validation, making the person feel like an outsider or pariah. An individual can't shame, it takes a community. You'd be working against the tide.

People are part of the mainstream because we have something called culture. It does however show clear emotion, wounded, narcissitic, emotion, to claim that the only reason people don't agree with you is because you are the keeper of a truth so sublime that it will overwhelm them in manner which they just can't handle.

Assume someone is unable to reason unless he demonstrates otherwise

That explains your inner dialogue.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

The biggest flaw ive encountered with being human is having to take a shit every 2.5 hours. Its a real hinderance I wish they taught in school how to plan your day so every 2.5 hours you are near a toilet and have .5 hours to spend taking the shit out. And then its the worst in summer.. A lot of shorts dont have enough pocket space the wiping paper.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Fried_Sushi
Could be argued that culture is less a higher achievement of civilization and more an instinctual means of identifying us/them.

But along the way we forgot what it was for. It became simply a status building thing. The more intune with the culture the more popular you became. And since us/them started getting abandoned the jews weasled their way in and our species became doomed.

farquit
farquit

@Fried_Sushi
to claim that the only reason people don't agree with you is because you are the keeper of a truth so sublime that it will overwhelm them in manner which they just can't handle.

Did I claim that? Where?

That explains your inner dialogue.

Did you mistake me for another user? What the hell are you referring to? Nice trips though.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Gigastrength
That's not even adjacent to what I said and demonstrates you either can't or don't want to understand what people are writing here.

I can't tell if you're a kid in real need of help or trolling with scattershot blogposts, but I hope you find there's a place for you to feel contentment and belonging soon. Then you won't feel the need to do whatever this is. Good luck in life, bud.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Need_TLC
Or it could be that culture is all behavior that is not inborn, that only the most severely retarded only have the behavior they were born with and that there is therefor by definition a cultural mainstream.

Presenting "culture" as conspiracy instead of descriptive fact is SJW tier Foucaldian ultra-left shit to which the only conclusion can be that everything and everyone is inherently oppressive, rendering the term meaningless when used in normative claims.

5505444
You all look alike.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Spamalot
I'm glad you paid so much attention to my lesson.
I'm glad to see that reading the truth has inspired such emotion from you.

You are trying to play a game. The rules are that I am wrong and you are right. How it is played is that you just say this again and again with little variation.
Some game.

Instead of blaming others for your ignorance and going on this tirade to try to save your false esteem for your viewpoint, you should look ahead and see that nothing can be gained from it.
You are learning humility. You might as well admit it and make the lesson easier.

vague
poorly worded
autistic pseudo-intellectual
wrong
doesn't even follow
doesn't even follow
doesn't even follow
doesn't even follow
This is desperation to deflect the truth with an outburst of emotion.
This is a reflection of your willful ignorance and the beginning of your realization that your point of view is unjustifiable.

You state nothing but opinion. You make no references to what you're talking about. You make no explanations. You spent so long reading and replying to my post that your utter lack of reasoning is inexcusable by any account. You have lost whatever game you think that we're playing. You knew this when you started playing. Learn the lesson.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@viagrandad
But basically, if there is a problem between us here and now, it is not that my thought and writing is incoherent, it's that you refuse to be flexible enough to read it.
If I'm wrong prove it.

I know I didn't write it in the most accessible way, but it is the truth, and I can prove it. I will write it in a more accessible way with more side-supports for a broader audience very soon.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Fuck reading that wall of text

Based on a couple replies I reported this thread. Hehe

Nojokur
Nojokur

@TurtleCat
Thanks for bumping

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Nojokur
I didn't, retard. lol

girlDog
girlDog

@Harmless_Venom
But I did

5mileys
5mileys

@girlDog

Good for you. Have a cookie.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

sage

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@StonedTime
I haven't seen someone get rekt like that in ages, that was great. I enjoyed the perspectives provided above, as well. I hope to see additional material after I get a good nights rest and possibly provide a more thorough response.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@TurtleCat
I'm afraid we aren't quite understanding each other, but we are close.

I need help from people like you. Is there a way we can talk other than posting here?

Evilember
Evilember

@Fried_Sushi
I'm afraid not, I'm one of those unmotivated people. All autism and no follow through. I'm mostly here for the shitposting tbh. But keep piquing my curiosity in other threads and we'll probably chat again.

Sorry bout your thread mate.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

This is a good post. Idk why people get offended at anything they don't immediately understand. Having the habit of getting offending only exacerbates the frequency of their misunderstandings, and it becomes a cycle.
Btw, I think a lot of MGTOW autists got triggered when OP called women "selfless".
To combat this OP should have threw a 'per se' somewhere there in red text.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Good post. I would have said much much more but
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Why is this site so broken.
Btw, throw in a "per se" when you call women "selfless". Otherwise all the MGTOWs will chimpout again.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Stupidasole
@LuckyDusty
Seriously. Wtf

likme
likme

@Evilember
hehe I designed it fail. next one I might take 'seriously' in a way

@LuckyDusty
yeah I am seriously surprised by how universally calling women selfless cursorily caused objection and rejection. Especially considering how it's easy to take the implication from the first sentence of the post that everything is womens' fault (though that isn't my point at all). I mean the objection is extremely easy to refute. People are just retarded as hell.

The proof of the inherent selflessness of women is in the form of their bodies. They are built to serve others. They give nourishment to others from their bodies. Their form is smaller because they give form to others. Their lives are jeopardized during childbirth. They are built to stay in the home and care for the family and the home itself. They have extremely strong instincts to protect their young just like all female mammals do. They have extremely strong nurturing instincts that men do not have. They are inherently selfless. Additionally they inherently have no self like a man does, which makes them selfless in another sense. They are predominantly emotional. A man is both emotional and rational.

Is it not a clue as to the truth of this that this argument would send any feminist into a rage?

The reason women are so fucking crazy nowadays is because they are built for all this behavior but all of the opportunities to enact it are taken away from them by society; the elite class; the slavers.

I mean jesus christ didn't I basically already say all that? Damn people are selectively literate (fucking retarded)

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@likme
I mean jesus fucking christ. How retarded do you have to be to not see that all that is plainly true.

You know how your mom is like a huge pain in the ass bothering about all this inane shit all the time? Well it's because everything she's meant to care about that actually makes sense to care about is taken out of her hands. It literally drives her crazy.

RumChicken
RumChicken

just realizing now what a total jew-run censorship shithole this site is

TechHater
TechHater

I honestly think that for society to have a chance censors need to start being murdered

Bidwell
Bidwell

@TreeEater
Say what you need to say, user.

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