Sociobiology, the forbidden science

5mileys
5mileys

Can Pol add some info on Sociobiology? I am curious as to why there is not more discussion on Sociobiology. It is one of the greatest tools we have to justify our views regarding ethnocentrism, ethnic nepotism, etc.

All urls found in this thread:
http://www.sociosite.net/topics/texts/wilson_sociobiology.php
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoknC2L3ixs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxpVwBzFAkw
https://archive.org/details/GLOBALINEQUALITYASACONSEQUENCEOFHUMANDIVERSITYANEWTHEORYTESTEDBYEMPIRICALEVIDENCE.TatuVanhanen
https://archive.org/details/ETHNICCONFLICTSTheirBiologicalRootsInEthnicNepotism.TatuVanhanen
http://ankisrs.net
https://ankiweb.net/shared/decks/
http://www.xmind.net
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociobiology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lewontin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould
http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/books-Preface.html
http://www.angelfire.com/rebellion2/goyim/je1.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_ponerology
http://www.serendipity.li/bush/ponerology_preview.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4-Od8cq5Gk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOnQPXuU81Q
http://thealternativeright.com/author/RyanFaulk/
https://whitewraithe.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/political-ponerology-andrew-m-lobaczewski.pdf
http://www.sott.net/article/203026-Lobaczewski-and-the-origins-of-Political-Ponerology
https://archive.is/vOTCz
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/18/why-smart-people-are-better-off-with-fewer-friends/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZwj1jk57Go
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_nepotism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_nepotism
https://sci-hub.io/
http://link.springer.com/search?sortOrder=newestFirst&facet-content-type=Article&facet-journal-id=12080
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/18/why-smart-people-are-better-off-with-fewer-friends/
https://vimeo.com/134135271
http://harpers.org/archive/2014/09/on-free-will/?single=1
https://archive.org/details/UnderTheSignOfTheScorpion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIuW-vNQsQI
http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/04/thanks-to-math-we-can-calculate-the-benefits-of-human-sacrifice/?comments=1&start=40
LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

I don't know much about it myself, but Jack Donovan wrote a very interesting chapter about it in The Way of Men in a chapter called The Bonobo Masturbation Society.

I recommend seeing if you can find it online. It's quite telling of how modern society has morphed human behavior.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

I did not even think about the Marxists. When the attacks on sociobiology came from Science for the People, the leading radical left group within American science, I was unprepared for a largely ideological argument.[2] It is now clear to me that I was tampering with something fundamental: mythology. Evolutionary theory applied to social systems is an extension of the great Western traditions of scientific materialism. As such, it threatens to transform into testable hypotheses the assumptions about human nature made by some Marxist philosophers. Its first line of evidence is not favorable to those assumptions, insofar as most traditional Marxists cling to a vision of human nature as a relatively unstructured phenomenon swept along by economic forces extraneous to human biology. Marxism and other secular ideologies previously rested secure as unchallenged satrapies of scientific materialism; now they were in danger of being displaced by other, less manageable biological explanations. The remarkably harsh response of Science for the People is an example of what Hans Kung [1976] has called the fully of the theologians.

http://www.sociosite.net/topics/texts/wilson_sociobiology.php

eGremlin
eGremlin

European Pathological Altruism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoknC2L3ixs

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Sociobiology runs contrary to the myth of equality. Left-wing politics is built upon the foundation of equality. Without equality, the whole current system of governance since the early 20th century ends.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@AwesomeTucker
and this is exactly why Pol needs to have a grasp on evolutionary theory, evolutionary psychology, and sociobiology. With the concepts laid out in these fields, pol types are able to out think the left. Our defense can be based on science and rationale whereas the left will argue "muh feelings". I leave all normies and lefties questioning their belief systems or at least terribly triggered.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@5mileys
I am curious as to why there is not more discussion on Sociobiology
because its basically impossible to make any useful statements about complex social behaviors by referencing genetics. Get over it

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxpVwBzFAkw

TreeEater
TreeEater

@CodeBuns
This. Phenotypes and broad behavioural profiles can be explained by heredity, but much individualized behaviour is passed on through epigenetic tags, something not fully understood yet. So whatever people say will be half speculation.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@5mileys
Pol

Impossible to take you seriously.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@AwesomeTucker
God me thinking.. I wonder if we could pull this off.. Why havent we created a Leeky Forums university.. complete with irc based e-courses, study groups and assignments?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@SniperWish
They'll fall back upon questioning the methodology of any study that runs contrary to their own beliefs and supports their opposition. They'll claim a racist will subconsciously, at best, manipulate data or go looking for data that confirms their preexisting bias.

You know, the typical fanfare of projection that cripples the left's cognitive abilities. You may also note the great deal of irony over how many hoops they will jump through and how far back they will bend in order to contort new information to fit their own narrative.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@SniperGod

regardless of the newfaggotry its a good topic for discussion.. Your predilection for unwarranted le sageboat makes you impossible to take seriously.

Evilember
Evilember

@happy_sad
questioning the methodology

are there holes in the methodology? Or do you mean they would baselessly question it?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@LuckyDusty
jack donovan sucks though

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Evilember
A 0.4 correlation between brain size in cubic centimeters and IQ would not be enough for them. Even though it's only 0.05 away from being a perfect linear correlation. I talked to a retired primary school principle about this and he still refused to accept that intelligence is linked about 90% to biology. Of course, the man spent over 30 years of his life educating children and it would hard for him to accept that his ability to uplift children and change their life by educating them would be a moot endeavor for no small number of low IQ children.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Deadlyinx
Yes, let's just turn into reddit. It's not like we value protecting culture around here. If it feels right, do it, right ;^)

It might be an interesting topic, but anyone who is retarded enough to type anything other than Leeky Forums should be banned for at least a month. Filtering this shit out would also kill a large percentage of shills.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Evilember
@Bidwell
Can you tell me why typing pol versus Leeky Forums makes such a difference? Is it confusing?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@eGremlin
He's a literal faggot and an egalitarian but he makes some good points, at least on the "gang nature" of men and how physical struggle and occasional violence is healthy for manhood.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@TreeEater
Erosion of culture.

It may seem autistic but it's important in the long term to hold on to these things…

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Tatu Vanhanen extends his ground breaking research undertaken with Richard Lynn in IQ and Global Inequality (2006). Here the analysis is expanded by using more measures of inequality, confirming that three-quarters of global variation in socio-economic inequality is explained by population differences in IQ.

These inequalities exist in basic human conditions: per capita income, the rate of university enrolment, mortality of children under 5 years of age, access to sanitation, and index of democracy.

As IQ is a phenotypic trait, caused by genes (three quarters) and environment (one quarter), Vanhanen concludes that inequality between populations cannot be explained by environmental factors alone. Inequality between populations is largely a by-product of human genetic diversity. Unless we are willing to abolish genetic variation between populations, we should accept a degree of inequality as part and parcel of that variation.

https://archive.org/details/GLOBALINEQUALITYASACONSEQUENCEOFHUMANDIVERSITYANEWTHEORYTESTEDBYEMPIRICALEVIDENCE.TatuVanhanen

takes2long
takes2long

@happy_sad

Ah, the Peer Re-Jew scam all over again.

"Gotta gatekeep those ideas, purely in the name of science goyim."

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@New_Cliche
@New_Cliche
understood and will follow SOP from now on.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Flameblow
Jack Donovan is an egalitarian

What? Really? Didn't get that vibe at all in The Way of Men. Why is he egalitarian?

viagrandad
viagrandad

Ethnic Conflicts: Their Biological Roots in Ethnic Nepotism
Tatu Vanhanen

In recent decades ethnic conflict has killed many millions and diminished the lives of many more. In Ethnic Conflicts: Their Biological Roots in Ethnic Nepotism Tatu Vanhanen turns his attention to this vital subject following his ground-breaking studies of democratisation and economic development.

This is a replication on the global stage of his widely cited 1991 study of ethnic conflict in India. It is an evolutionary analysis that combines nuance and quantitative rigor. Vanhanen's starting assumption, that all humans share a common human nature in which nepotism can extend to ethnic kin, is already far ahead of culture-based analyses.

Marshalling data on 176 contemporary societies, Vanhanen finds that 66% of global variation in ethnic conflict is explained by heterogeneity. This is the sort of robust result that comes from using palpable biological variables. There are many other causes of ethnic conflict but none as strong as ethnic diversity. Per capita income, level of human development, and level of democratization explain only between 6% and 16% of variation. Vanhanen concludes that because the predisposition to ethnic nepotism is engraved in the human genome, ethnic conflict will continue into the future.

https://archive.org/details/ETHNICCONFLICTSTheirBiologicalRootsInEthnicNepotism.TatuVanhanen

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Sir_Gallonhead
This Tatu Vanhanen is the father of our pretty cucked former prime minister Matti Vanhanen who's' also going for the next Finnish presidential race.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Sir_Gallonhead
Its a thought that has been rattling in my head as well, user.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@takes2long
There's nothing wrong with the idea of peer review, things should be scrutinized by your peers its the only intellectually honest way to find truth let people who are your peers in a specialist field rip to shit your methodology and findings and if it still stands then we can build from it to further discover.
Now the system can be abused and thats why we laugh at social sciences.

likme
likme

@Sir_Gallonhead
@TreeEater
Maybe we could use something like Anki for a flashcard system:
http://ankisrs.net

You can share decks via anki for free
https://ankiweb.net/shared/decks/

To simplify concepts via mindmaps, my favorite is Xmind:
http://www.xmind.net

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@likme
@Sir_Gallonhead
It would be nice to have a week long discussion with a bit of mandatory topic structure. One topic for every week of the year would probably be beneficial for us.

askme
askme

@Sir_Gallonhead
@viagrandad

This guy seems like a total shitlord.
How does he get away with this when James Whatson was lynched by the libmob for a single sentence?

pic related: the two books that made me question the matrix

you don't even to argue about specific markers - game theory alone predicts that they would have been found
(note neither book as any explicit Leeky Forums component - meaning you can safely hand them to liberals)

massdebater
massdebater

Leeky Forums is right again. Redpills right in wikipedia. The "most notable critics" are both jewish and went to harvard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociobiology
Criticism, most notably from Richard Lewontin and Stephen Jay Gould, centered on sociobiology's contention that genes play an ultimate role in human behavior and that traits such as aggressiveness can be explained by biology rather than a person's social environment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lewontin
Lewontin was born in New York City to parents descended from late 19th-century Eastern European Jewish immigrants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould
Stephen Jay Gould was born and raised in the community of Bayside, a neighborhood of the northeastern section of Queens in New York City. His father Leonard was a court stenographer, and his mother Eleanor was an artist whose parents were Jewish immigrants living and working in the city's Garment District.[6]

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

The Culture of Critique: An Evolutionary Analysis of Jewish Involvement in Twentieth-Century Intellectual and Political Movements

CofC describes how Jewish intellectuals initiated and advanced a number of important intellectual and political movements during the 20th century. I argue that these movements are attempts to alter Western societies in a manner that would neutralize or end anti-Semitism and enhance the prospects for Jewish group continuity either in an overt or in a semi-cryptic manner. Several of these Jewish movements (e.g., the shift in immigration policy favoring non-European peoples) have attempted to weaken the power of their perceived competitors — the European peoples who early in the 20th century had assumed a dominant position not only in their traditional homelands in Europe, but also in the United States, Canada, and Australia. At a theoretical level, these movements are viewed as the outcome of conflicts of interest between Jews and non-Jews in the construction of culture and in various public policy issues. Ultimately, these movements are viewed as the expression of a group evolutionary strategy by Jews in their competition for social, political and cultural dominance with non-Jews.

http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/books-Preface.html

Here is a link to the book:
http://www.angelfire.com/rebellion2/goyim/je1.pdf

Illusionz
Illusionz

Łobaczewski adopted the term ponerology, which is derived from the Greek word poneros, from the branch of theology dealing with the study of evil. According to Łobaczewski, all societies vacillate between "happy times" and "unhappy times." During happy times, societies enjoy prosperity and suppress advanced psychological knowledge of psychopathological influence in the corridors of power. Though happy, these times are not necessarily morally advanced as the society's prosperity or happiness may be premised on the oppression of a target group. During unhappy times, the intelligentsia and society at large can recover this specialized knowledge to resolve the social order along mentally healthier lines.

A form of government interesting to ponerologists is one they have called pathocracy, in which individuals with personality disorders (especially psychopathy) occupy positions of power and influence. The result is a totalitarian system characterized by a government turned against its own people. A pathocracy may emerge when a society is insufficiently guarded against the typical and inevitable minority of such abnormal pathology, which Łobaczewski asserts is caused by biology or genetics. He argues that in such cases these individuals infiltrate an institution or state, prevailing moral values are perverted into their opposite, and a coded language like Orwell's doublethink circulates into the mainstream, using paralogic and paramoralism in place of genuine logic and morality.

There are various identifiable stages of pathocracy described by Łobaczewski. Ultimately, each pathocracy is foredoomed because the root of healthy social morality, according to Łobaczewski, is contained in the congenital instinctive infrastructure in the vast majority of the population. While some in the normal population are more susceptible to pathocratic influence, and become its lackeys, the majority instinctively resist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_ponerology

Book online
http://www.serendipity.li/bush/ponerology_preview.pdf

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

is that like biohistory?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4-Od8cq5Gk

Nojokur
Nojokur

I have run into this before in some random discussion. It was mind boggling.

It would be a huge redpill to scientists. Denying DNA's effect on emotions and behaviors is essentially denying natural selection exists. Scientists simply don't suspect any conspiracy within science. They stick to their own realm and try to make some contribution.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Bump, this thread has a lot of interesting info.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@5mileys
Sociobiology is basically just part of the HBD movement now. Some of the major players in HBD are interviewed in this Norwegian documentary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOnQPXuU81Q

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@kizzmybutt
i like that documentary so far, and especially the strong scandinavian accent.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

reminder that /pdfs/index.html exists and has lots of resources

iluvmen
iluvmen

@kizzmybutt
@Dreamworx
funny thing about this documentary, it does redpills in the most politically correct way. talks about africans being better in sports, jews being smart

Illusionz
Illusionz

@kizzmybutt
this guy is hilarious

RumChicken
RumChicken

some good related articles here

http://thealternativeright.com/author/RyanFaulk/

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@AwesomeTucker
There is no limit to how much your environment can harm you (it can even kill you) but there is a limit to how much it can help you. The ceiling is decided by your genes and this disparity in outcomes will follow a measurable bell curve even under perfect and identical material conditions. This disparity can be immense when comparing genetically distant races.

You can argue that scientifically and if you can get a leftist to accept it most of their beliefs will gradually break down.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@TreeEater
@CodeBuns

All the more reasons for us to start studying it, free from the political correctness that has impeded science and truth for decades

idontknow
idontknow

@Sir_Gallonhead
Uploaded by archiver8841

hahahahahahahahaha

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@5mileys
The field of sociobiology is currently (quite richly) explored under the label of evolutionary psychology.

askme
askme

@Deadlyinx
@5mileys

I did some digging into user OP, and you're absolutely right, check out the leading critics of socio biology, pic related, 30 min but worth it.

Leeky Forums was right again

But seriously, we need to get more truth seekers into this field.

Today OP was not a faggot

iluvmen
iluvmen

@iluvmen
Does it mention that kikes can't spaciotemporal? And therefore aren't known for being engineers or other such things?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Deadlyinx
@Deadlyinx
There is no limit to how much your environment can harm you (it can even kill you) but there is a limit to how much it can help you. The ceiling is decided by your genes and this disparity in outcomes will follow a measurable bell curve even under perfect and identical material conditions. This disparity can be immense when comparing genetically distant races.
You can argue that scientifically and if you can get a leftist to accept it most of their beliefs will gradually break down.

And this is precisely why it is morally wrong to adopt mud babies. Hell, it's morally wrong to *adopt*, so long as you are capable of having kids. And don't have ALS/parkinsons/huntingtons at once.

Mud babies will never reach what a baby from your own civilized race can. Should carry your legacy anyway.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@iluvmen
I wonder what they feel when looking at art like this? Perhaps they feel revulsion and hatred because it was made by unclean goyim who worship a false prophet. That would explain their promotion of abstract and modern art as an act of mutilation.

I wonder how they would feel if this was demolished by Islamic Fundamentalists?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@viagrandad
@Sir_Gallonhead
So how much can these just be handed to normies?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Skullbone
I wonder what they feel when looking at art like this? Perhaps they feel revulsion and hatred because it was made by unclean goyim who worship a false prophet. That would explain their promotion of abstract and modern art as an act of mutilation.

More like they get to show off their language skills and intelligence. With things like what you posted there is only so much you can analyze and so on before you devolve to trivia. So with modern art, they suddenly are able to go much much further with that.

We can simply admire the achievement wonder and splendor of a work of art such as that.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Illusionz
ponerology

That's a lot of hoops to jump through in order to just avoid naming the jew.

likme
likme

@Fuzzy_Logic

This.

Evolutionary psychology is a more up-to-date theory than sociobiology. Most evolutionary psychology texts go into the problems with the sociobiology research program (usually in the chapter on the history of evopsych). One of the big problems was that sociobio program generally ignored cognitive mechanisms (both general cognitive psychology and cognitive neuroscience).

RavySnake
RavySnake

Some people doing sociobiology and evolutionary psychology are sloppy about it and tell just-so stories (e.g. Satoshi Kanezawa) but leftists have a totally unhinged reaction to it. It used to be Marxists who were threatened by the possibility that many of the bad things people do are rooted in biology rather than being 100% the product of capitalism. Now it seems like it is more feminists who are threatened by the possibility that there could be biological differences between men and women (aside from the most obvious physical ones) which are what lead them to behave differently rather than this being purely a product of the patriarchy and cultural indoctrination.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Illusionz
The original theory and research was conducted by a research group of psychologists and psychiatrists from Poland, Czechoslovakia, and pre-communist Hungary. The group was brought together by Łobaczewski and included Kazimierz Dąbrowski, Stefan Szuman, and Stefan Błachowski, among many other anonymous contributors.

I see. So it was just a way of avoiding naming the jew.

Methshot
Methshot

@RavySnake
You realize the feminists you're speaking of get their ideology from marxists, right?

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Illusionz
FOUND A PDF LINK OF THE WHOLE BOOK
https://whitewraithe.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/political-ponerology-andrew-m-lobaczewski.pdf

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Methshot
They're related to one another and feminists took a lot of the social construction stuff from Marxism, but if you look at the specifics of what they're saying (or even just look at far left forums) they're not exactly the same. The pure Marxists insist that the real problem is capitalism and tell feminists that all the stuff they don't like is because of it, but the feminists insist it's not just about economic class but also about the patriarchy. These tensions between far left groups are exactly what we should be exploiting by the way.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@CodeBuns

No, it really isn't. There have been plenty of experiments that have been run base on evolutionary principles that have shown the evolutionary principles to be true.

A common one that evolutionary psychologists ref is gift-giving patterns in grandparents.

The grandparent most giving is the maternal grandmother as she has two generations of parental assurance that the grandchild is hers, while the least giving is the paternal grandfather as he has 2 generations of paternity uncertainty separating him from the grandchild.

The field is still expanding and the only real jew influence in it seems to be an unusual aversion to studying group dynamics.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@SniperWish
The problem is that while they may battle each other like orcs, the second we show up they instantly form up.

Meanwhile on our side we have Eric Ericcson.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@RavySnake

Kanazawa is fairly legit, actually. He just rustles some jimmies hard by talking about things like the least/most desired sex/race groups, which are black women and asian men (he is an asian man) which is why he got kicked off of psychology today and that site pretty much went full SJW afterwards.

He's a Japanese autist and everything but a fairly good shitlord.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@w8t4u
It's not obvious to me just how unified they really are when the move to fissure them is done properly. Hopefully when Trump starts pivoting for the general election he does it by focusing even more on the economic problems affecting the working and middle classes, so that all Hillary has on her side are obnoxious SJWs insisting screeching that social justice is more important than anything else.

massdebater
massdebater

@Illusionz
http://www.sott.net/article/203026-Lobaczewski-and-the-origins-of-Political-Ponerology
https://archive.is/vOTCz

This dude thought Zbigniew Brzezinski would help him expose the "psychopaths" running the show. This is a classic case of being redpilled, but not being redpilled enough. Poor guy.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@CodeBuns
das rayciss mayne

u ignint

Supergrass
Supergrass

Hell might actually be other people – at least if you're really smart.

That's the implication of fascinating new research published last month in the British Journal of Psychology. Evolutionary psychologists Satoshi Kanazawa of the London School of Economics and Norman Li of Singapore Management University dig in to the question of what makes a life well-lived. While traditionally the domain of priests, philosophers and novelists, in recent years survey researchers, economists, biologists and scientists have been tackling that question.

Kanazawa and Li theorize that the hunter-gatherer lifestyles of our ancient ancestors form the foundation for what make us happy now. "Situations and circumstances that would have increased our ancestors’ life satisfaction in the ancestral environment may still increase our life satisfaction today," they write.

They use what they call "the savanna theory of happiness" to explain two main findings from an analysis of a large national survey (15,000 respondents) of adults aged 18 to 28.

First, they find that people who live in more densely populated areas tend to report less satisfaction with their life overall. "The higher the population density of the immediate environment, the less happy" the survey respondents said they were. Second, they find that the more social interactions with close friends a person has, the greater their self-reported happiness.

But there was one big exception. For more intelligent people, these correlations were diminished or even reversed.

"The effect of population density on life satisfaction was therefore more than twice as large for low-IQ individuals than for high-IQ individuals," they found. And "more intelligent individuals were actually less satisfied with life if they socialized with their friends more frequently."

Let me repeat that last one: When smart people spend more time with their friends, it makes them less happy.

Now, the broad contours of both findings are largely uncontroversial. A large body of previous research, for instance, has outlined what some have called an "urban-rural happiness gradient." Kanazawa and Li explain: "Residents of rural areas and small towns are happier than those in suburbs, who in turn are happier than those in small central cities, who in turn are happier than those in large central cities."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/18/why-smart-people-are-better-off-with-fewer-friends/

WebTool
WebTool

bump

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@SomethingNew
wtf is wrong with the elephants bones in it's front legs? one leg looks normal and the other is all catty-wompus

Bidwell
Bidwell

So, is there anyone out there actually active in this field? Or did the kikes shut it down?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@iluvmen
No (of course).

Mainly it focused on good things about races, but did spend quite some time on African IQ. It led to some pretty uncomfortable conversations and cuckservatives showing their colors.

They talked to far right and far left so you really see the lefties wanting to SHUT IT DOWN.

TechHater
TechHater

@SniperWish
add population genetics to that list

pic is a textbook that touches the subject, along with general evolutionarily genetics.

It is my favorite textbook. a pdf will not be that hard to find.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@5mileys
It's good to explain basics of human behavior and society. Feminists in particular hate it with passion.
But remember that it explains the groundwork of humanity.
There is a realm where humans are able to retrospect on their actions and pursue abstract thought where sociobiology struggles to give meaningful explanations.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Supergrass
READING THE WASHINGTONPOST
lel faggot kill yourself
durh smart pee–ps may have less friends happy self reporters durh

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Supergrass
"The effect of population density on life satisfaction was therefore more than twice as large for low-IQ individuals than for high-IQ individuals," they found. And "more intelligent individuals were actually less satisfied with life if they socialized with their friends more frequently."

Let me repeat that last one: When smart people spend more time with their friends, it makes them less happy.

That certainly describes my experience. They want to hang out like every week or more, which is way too often. Too draining. Not only that, but not enough time for other things.

So I try to do less, which seems to be seen as some smear against them. Which leads to even less time than I'd like. Like twice a year. It's really really shit.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@BlogWobbles
So how much can these just be handed to normies?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Raving_Cute
Good for redpilling, assuming people bother to watch it?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Raving_Cute
The documentary has the potential to be used as a huge red-pill for normies. I post it at every opportunity hoping that it goes viral, but it has been at around 30,000 views for about a year. Maybe a separate thread should be made to try and meme Brainwash: Race into the mainstream.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@whereismyname
I believe the basic concepts need to be extracted and woven with examples of realistic scenarios in peoples daily lives.

e.g. Average standard of living of a nation is correlated with average IQ of a nation. If you move low IQ types into your nation, your average IQ drops and your average standard of living decreases. Its a lot more complex than just the IQ factor but most people are happy with this level of info. Most white folks can get the gist of what you are trying to express.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Sociology as viewed by an Historian:

When it works: <25%

Social groups and phenomenon are carefully defined, then compared to a limited amount of statistical data. Which relevancy is determined by the definition of group/phenomena. The result is a limited insight into a cause/effect relationship between economic and social factors. The relationship is only shown, not discussed based on ideology.

When it doesnt work >75%

Poorly defined, broard social groups and blurry phenomenon, based on marxist imaginations, are compared to data-sets of non to poor quality. Then some marxist talkingpoint is 'validated' on behalf of the border/boundles groups/phenomenon/shitpile.

Tripp Charles: The Power and the People - Paths of Resistance in the Middle East is a prime example of the later. His qualifications of any of the groups/phenomenon he writes about are solely based on a lose reading of Karl Marx, when he even bothers to do that. His use of statistic is very far removed from any of the groups he barely defined and his conclussions are 100 % auto-marxist crap. Read the book if you want to train how to deconstruct marxism. Otherwise save the money and be happy :)

askme
askme

Pol

WebTool
WebTool

@BunnyJinx
I get you. Its even harder because their hobbies are materialistic in everyway.

I used to be like this too but then i was younger. I was afraid of loneliness. Now its a bless.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@CodeBuns
This.

It can explain impulses, but it can't explain regression to obeying impulses when there are other choices.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@kizzmybutt
Honestly, the overarching goal of Leeky Forums besides "white power" or whatever the fuck

Is to pretty much make Brainwash:Race the documentary a household staple, HBD universally accepted as a scientific discipline, race realist ideas universally accepted in media and elsewhere, and ultimately a total reappraisal of the entire cultural and social sphere based on these changes.

Of course, leftists will play the "good guys" through all of this, sitting back like they are the ones who "care" when in fact they are simply cowards too weak and pathetic to stand up for the truth and to do so in a humane way

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Emberburn
I love Brainwash: Race.

It's quite simply the most useful, powerful, positive red pill on the race question available.

Yet people just don't seem to watch it. They ignore it. That's how horrified normies are of this stuff. They're TERRIFIED.

I mean, remember how you might have felt, if you were liberal at one point, coming over to this stuff.

The average person feels like that. It's hard to remember for us now that we're fully red pilled, for the most part. But you have the remember the average person is just… fucked. They're completely in the dark.

Ultimately it's a small number of smarties who tell the majority what to think. So just get it to those kinds of people.

Still, I watch this documentary like once a year myself at this point because it's so good, and really it amazes me that it STILL has only 30,000 views. Fucking absurd. It should be a household staple, known by everyone. That's how good it is.

Of course, the subject is treated with such care and genuine interest that anyone should see it! Absolute must view for every human being on the face of our planet! Thanks for making that one Norway, looks great! Thanks guys! Wow! YES!!

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@CodeBuns

humans are bees and ants

:^)

Skullbone
Skullbone

@PackManBrainlure
I remember when i learned that hitler, while not a good guy, he was the good guy in ww2 i broke into cold shiver, almost cried and then got absolutely furious.

Now i salute him.

cum2soon
cum2soon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZwj1jk57Go

RumChicken
RumChicken

The theory views ethnocentrism and racism as nepotism toward extended kin and an extension of kin selection. In other words, ethnic nepotism points toward a biological basis for the phenomenon of people preferring others of the same ethnicity or race; it explains the tendency of humans to favor members of their own racial group by postulating that all animals evolve toward being more altruistic toward kin in order to propagate more copies of their common genes.

"The myth of common descent", proposed by many social scientists as a prominent ethnic marker, is in his view often not a myth at all.[clarification needed] "Ethnicity is defined by common descent and maintained by endogamy".[2]

To guard one's genetic interests, Frank Salter notes altruism toward one's co-ethnics:

Hamilton's 1975 model of a genetic basis for tribal altruism shows that it is theoretically possible to defend ethnic genetic interests in an adaptive manner, even when the altruism entails self sacrifice. He argued mathematically that an act of altruism directed towards the tribe was adaptive if it protected the aggregate of distant relatives in the tribe. In sexually-reproducing species a population's genetic isolation leads to rising levels of interrelatedness of its members and thus makes greater altruism adaptive. Low levels of immigration between tribes allow growing relatedness of tribal members, which in turn permits selection of altruistic acts directed at tribal members, but only if these acts "actually aid in group fitness in some way…." Closely related individuals are less likely to free ride and more likely to invest in and thus strengthen the group as a whole, improving the fitness of its members.[3]

Regarding how this translates into politics and why homogeneous societies are more altruistic, Frank Salter writes:

Relatively homogeneous societies invest more in public goods, indicating a higher level of public altruism. For example, the degree of ethnic homogeneity correlates with the government's share of gross domestic product as well as the average wealth of citizens. Case studies of the United States, Africa and South-East Asia find that multi-ethnic societies are less charitable and less able to cooperate to develop public infrastructure. Moscow beggars receive more gifts from fellow ethnics than from other ethnics. A recent multi-city study of municipal spending on public goods in the United States found that ethnically or racially diverse cities spend a smaller portion of their budgets and less per capita on public services than do the more homogenous cities.[4]

J. Philippe Rushton has complemented kin selection and ethnic nepotism by his genetic similarity theory which proposes that "genetically similar people tend to seek one another out and to provide mutually supportive environments such as marriage, friendship, and social groups. This may represent a biological factor underlying ethnocentrism and group selection".[2] He has also argued that:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_nepotism

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

[B]ecause fellow ethnics carry copies of the same genes, ethnic consciousness is rooted in the biology of altruism and mutual reciprocity. Thus ethnic nationalism, xenophobia and genocide can become the ‘dark side’ of altruism. Moreover, shared genes can govern the degree to which an ideology is adopted. Some genes will replicate better in some cultures than in others. Religious, political and class conflicts become heated because they affect genetic fitness. Karl Marx did not take his analysis far enough: ideology may be the servant of economic interest, but genes influence both. Since individuals have a greater concentration of genetic interest (inclusive fitness) in their own ethnic group than they do in other ethnic groups, they can be expected to adopt ideas that promote their group over others. Political ethologist Frank Salter refers to ideologies as ‘fitness portfolios’, and psychologist Kevin MacDonald has described co-ethnics as engaging in "group evolutionary strategies."[5]

In Rushton's interpretation it is not clear whether the proposed genetic likeness that supports ethnic nepotism is limited to external appearance, or it also includes other loci.[citation needed] If that is the case, it would be difficult to deduct how similar blood types or creatine levels, or others, among the multitude of invisible phenotype traits, contribute to determine the bonding behavior towards people carrying the alleged similar alleles. Also, there is no clue offered as to which of these specific alleles are the most important for expression of ethnic nepotism. Hamiltonian kin selection (in itself very controversial) refers exclusively to defined sets of discrete behaviors that are innate, not learned[6] and increase the reproductive fitness among very close kin, whereas ethnic nepotism would appear to depend heavily on social interactions and on morphology, or physical characteristics.

According to research by Van der Dennen, "ethnocentrism-cum-xenophobia" seems universally present in preindustrial societies (and in many primate and social carnivore species).[2]

Tatu Vanhanen in his 1999 book Ethnic Conflicts Explained by Ethnic Nepotism empirically examined the relationships between the degree of ethnic homogeneity, the degree of ethnic conflicts, and the degree of democratization in the nations of the world. He found that more ethnically heterogeneous nations had more ethnic conflicts. The degree of democratization explained very little of the degree of ethnic conflicts except that very authoritarian states such as the former Soviet Union and Yugoslavia could suppress ethnic conflicts. Ethnic conflicts were only slightly less common in more economically developed countries. They appeared within all racial groups, cultures, and geographical regions. In Vanhanen's view, people have a genetic tendency to easily learn ethnic attitudes and psychological mechanisms leading to prejudice, scapegoating, and discrimination.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_nepotism

Supergrass
Supergrass

On Genetic Interests: Family, Ethnicity, and Humanity in an Age of Mass Migration is a 2003 book by Frank Salter. "Genetic interests" is a non-technical term designating an organism's inclusive fitness or copies of its genes. Salter's book is the first attempt to map the distribution of human genetic interests.[1] Salter adopts the second meaning: copies of an individual's gene patterns. The need to have this gap in knowledge filled is evidenced by the enthusiasm with which the book was received.

The book carried endorsements from several high-profile ethnologists and psychologists:[2]

Edward O. Wilson, Harvard University: "[This] is a fresh and deep contribution to the sociobiology of humans, combining genetics with social science in original ways."

Pierre van den Berghe, University of Washington, Seattle: "The book greatly expands Hamiltonian 'kin selection' by making ethnies in control of territory the central arena of ‘selfish genery’ in a modern world of mass migration."

Irenäus Eibl-Eibesfeldt, Max Planck Society: "Salter argues that all humans have a vital interest in genetic continuity that is threatened by mass migration. Salter advocates non-aggressive ‘universal nationalism’ as part of a balanced ‘fitness portfolio’ that includes investments in three levels of genetic interests—family, ethny, and the species as a whole. The synthesis is persuasive; the policy formulations provocative."

Michael T. McGuire, UCLA: "[Salter] has provided us with a deep and compelling explanation of what most people know and what guides much of their behavior, but fear to acknowledge publicly."

Robin Fox, Rutgers University: "We are indeed all part of each other, as John Donne insisted even before the help of evolutionary genetics. But we are more part of some than others, and the nature of these boundaries of ethnic kinship has been ignored, avoided or denied. After Salter’s virtuoso synthesis we can no longer duck these issues which become more important daily."

Professor Kevin B. MacDonald also wrote that Frank Salter has written a very important – and a brilliant – book that deserves the close attention not only of evolutionists and social scientists, but of policy-makers as well.[3]

Criticism came from Kenan Malik, an Indian-British public intellectual specializing in ethnic affairs. Malik rejected the reality of ethnic kinship because it is based on gene frequencies. He also criticized the theory of ethnic nepotism, and argued that the field studies of favoritism shown to beggars of the benefactor's ethnic group are best explained by cultural factors.[4]

In his introduction to the Transaction edition (2007, p. 13)[5] Salter agreed with one criticism made in Gene Expression but considers the remainder to be already answered in the book. He responded to one criticism at length, the assertion that On Genetic Interests commits the naturalistic fallacy, i.e. attempts to deduce values from facts. Salter's defense drew on a longer unpublished reply[6] to a negative review by Peter Gray, an evolutionary psychologist from Boston College.[7][8]

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@BunnyJinx
@New_Cliche
Well actually, the way I see it, that's why 'white power' and 'white supremacy' are meaningless the way they talk about it.

I mean, just look at the actual content of the 14 words for example. All it says is that white children deserve a right to live and breathe and have a future.
By any honest metric that is simply a moral statement.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@BunnyJinx
It seems like just showing Stefan Molyneux's Truth About Illegal Immigration, and I think he had a companion one I watched about immigration in general, then the 'why nations IQ matters' he just put out but I haven't watched would describe all of that.

The normal problem I have is getting people to give a fuck enough to listen at all. That litany of videos would likely be over 3 hours long.

Because even a sentence like what you just wrote
e.g. Average standard of living of a nation is correlated with average IQ of a nation. If you move low IQ types into your nation, your average IQ drops and your average standard of living decreases.

has an easy potential to be dismissed as non-information.

One time I ended up talking about why women on the battlefield, especially as mixed with men as a single unit was a stupid idea. It was because the new EA battlefront was in beta. I played it and was disgusted that it fully randomized who you were. For me it almost always rolled up either a female, or a non-white male. So I assumed when I was a white male that I was also gay because that's the only way that would be acceptable.

So anyway, afterwards he asks me what I thought of the game. I was disgusted. That's when I started trying to tell him about why a mixed squad at the least is doomed to more casualties and massive failure. Not least of which is because one soldier always needs to be able to basically carry a hurt soldier and both packs of equipment. A female soldier will never be able to do that. I actually got pushback from that, when it should be self-evident. This is a guy who is normally completely apolitical.

It devolved into 'oh, yeah, do you think you could do that just because you're male? Do you think you could outdo any female soldier'
'Given my frame (I'm 6'2) if me and the female soldier were the same age and fitness level, yes, every single time.'
Then he was just too angry to continue any discussion. Normally a slow to anger guy also.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@BunnyJinx
Just to add, meanwhile I have much more information about that that I can't even get to.

I couldn't even get to the fact that female ligaments and so on are more fragile than ours. Things can break on their bodies more easily.

From personal testimony by a rancher that I read here months and months ago, I know that even the tall muscular looking girls who have done that kind of work their whole lives also cause problems.

They bitch about sexist pay in the best of situations, despite enforcing a strict 9-5 style schedule, and the fact that the male workers will sometimes continue to work until 9 or 10 pm if required. It's because they worked until what needed done was done, they simply worked longer. But the women would complain.

In the worst of situations, for example, when helping a cow to give birth one of these women fucked up during the process. She was helping a male rancher do it, and the guy ended up with a broken arm. The rancher was pissed because that guy was one of his best and was not out of commission for some time.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@PackManBrainlure
I never started as a liberal.

I was just a standard conservative-libertarian. I spent the last election on Redstate. I was for Gingrich or Herman Cain. Anyone But Romney, as even Redstate called it.

I think the way they acted when Trump entered the race was one of the things that I was like. Why are you acting like this? Here's a guy who finally isn't establishment. Then I started drifting away from there.

Once I started getting redpill facts there was really nothing to break. So I just started taking them. Especially because each one really does explain underlying issues.

Maybe understanding what that would be like would help.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Skullbone
I knew before that Patton once the war ended decided the fight wasn't done and wanted to immediately invade the Soviet Union.

We would actually be better off today if that had happened, because then they would never have infected our school systems. It's quite possible that our normal societies would have continued at this point, because without that infection, all white countries would never have changed their immigration systems in the 60's and 70's. I don't know if anyone would have given Hitler or Stalin a second thought after both were defeated. Certainly wouldn't obsess the way we do about it. We don't talk about the First World War leaders virtually at all.

I didn't know until recently that he thought we should have allied with the Reich in the first place once he figured out that the battle was between Nationalism and Globalism and nothing else.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Garbage Can Lid
This. And even in empirically rigorous fields like physics, every scientist needs to "publish or perish" in their career, and the only way to get peer review input and publish is scientific journals. The journal publishers themselves do no science or peer review themselves and are just copyright trolls who charge $10-20 per article (most uni research projects involve dozens of hundreds of citations, unless you have access through a library or you are a fucking millionaire you are screwed) , and hundreds to scientists who want to publish, it is parasitic racket through and through. Scientific journals are complete kikery, research collaboration and peer review needs to be established independent of those copyright troll cocksuckers.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Carnalpleasure
movements like https://sci-hub.io/ need to be supported

5mileys
5mileys

@5mileys
@SniperWish
Pol
stop typing Leeky Forums wrong, your new is showing.

That said, E. O. Wilson is one of my favorite people in the world. Brilliant man, and a super nice guy. For anyone who doesn't know, he's one of the world's best, if not the best, evolutionary biologist. Watch any YT vid of him talking about biology, it's great.

@AwesomeTucker
Sociobiology runs contrary to the myth of equality
of course it does. Facts in general run contrary to the positions of liberals, it's why they don't deal with scientific or statistical statements.

@Carnalpleasure
the publishing racket is the single most destructive thing in science. it's fucking cancer incarnate and any real scientist worth their salt fucking hates it. Such a corrupt system that makes people who do no work tons of money, built up on the backs of the hard working sci people of the world. Like any other goddamn jew industry. WWIII can't come fast enough, mang.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@LuckyDusty
The Bonobo Masturbation Society

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Supergrass
Hell might actually be other people – at least if you're really smart.
I believe this.

I don't know when it happened, but somewhere along the line I picked up the ability to tell, after spending just a very limited time with someone, whether they were a truly decent person at heart or not. It's not 100%, naturally, but it hardly ever steers me wrong. However, this shows you super quickly that most people suck. And I'm in south FL, which is particularly horrible. Lots of people everywhere, with all the flaws you could think of: shallow, egotistic, insecure, slutty, selfish, vapid, over emotional, just shitty people all around.

All I want is an adorable, modest girl with good values, and that's not going to happen here. Hell is other people when you can see what's within them.

When smart people spend more time with their friends, it makes them less happy.
when they spend time with anybody who isn't as smart as they are, it makes them less happy. It just magnifies the reality that these people aren't like them, that they're stupid normalfags living in their little bubbles, totally happy with their little normalfag lives, while the smart people see what's going on around them, and wish they could be as stupid, ignorant, and blissful as the normalfags.

I'll tell you one thing, if all i had to worry about was living in a community living off the land, caring for a qt, i'd be much happier.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@5mileys
of course it does. Facts in general run contrary to the positions of liberals, it's why they don't deal with scientific or statistical statements.
And then when you quote them at them they call you a moron.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@CouchChiller
I can tell fairly quickly how generally smart people are.

It'd be great to add that to it.

@CouchChiller
living off the land,
Not while property taxes still exist.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Sir_Gallonhead
Does this mean that if you have an IQ of 100, you had an original IQ of 75 and were boosted up to 100 by your environment?

Sorry if that question sounds stupid.

askme
askme

5542989
Fuck off, shitposter.
hurr durr why do the mods delete our threads
let's roleplay as "rule cucks"
We're on to you. Have a nice day.

Techpill
Techpill

@CodeBuns
(1)

LET ME POST GOD DAMMIT

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Skullbone
I'm not sure if they were always like this as their Pharasaic ancestors shared very similar traits criticized by Christ, but I would wager that through the centuries jewry has evolved to be a race that has adapted to be focused in fields that require only rigid, linear thinking like mathematics, numismatics, accounting, law, etc.

Besides the revulsion (and envy?) to the art of goyim, they just plain may lack the spaciotemporal reasoning and creativity to create grand works of art like you posted.

They can read their Talmud and Torah all day long, engage in all sort of rigid esoteric rituals, count and recount waves of numbers, but ask them to paint a grand fresco and they will fall apart. If it were not for their pure evil, I might feel pity for them.

God hath no greater curse on this Earth than for any man to be born a jew.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@PurpleCharger
No, it means that in order to attain your maximum potential IQ, your environment is the key that unlocks your genetics.

girlDog
girlDog

OP, I remember there was a book, The Triumph of Sociobiology, in one of the monthly reading packs.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@5mileys

I was able to see an E. O. Wilson lecture when I was in fifth grade. While I didn't understand the majority of it, the man is a true saint.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@5mileys

You might also be interested in theoretical ecology:

http://link.springer.com/search?sortOrder=newestFirst&facet-content-type=Article&facet-journal-id=12080

Techpill
Techpill

bump

Skullbone
Skullbone

@5mileys

Can Pol add some info on Sociobiology? I am curious as to why there is not more discussion on Sociobiology. It is one of the greatest tools we have to justify our views regarding ethnocentrism, ethnic nepotism, etc.

You are correct. You can try reading E.O. Wilson's book first, then evolutionary psychology.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Dreamworx
Doesn't goy success/virtue, especially the creation of such skillful artistic beauty, offend them on a fundamental level because they believe they are the blessed ones and are destined to rule all others who are inferior to themselves and are supposed to be sinful and wretched?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Dreamworx
God hath no greater curse on this Earth than for any man to be born a jew.

Well, they did it to themselves by being disobedient to him so many times, culminating with denying and murdering Christ. The fact they still defiantly deny Christ after seeing everything that's happened to them shows you how stupid they are.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@5mileys
why there is not more discussion on Sociobiology.

It is one of the greatest tools we have

I think you may have answered your own question there…

It's probably classified to some extent, at least, all of the really useful stuff on the subject.

The less you know about how you are manipulated, the more effectively it works.

idontknow
idontknow

@haveahappyday
When it works: <25%

When it doesnt work >75%

It's quite amazing how quickly that "Less than 25%" can turn into social proof, getting people to agree with it by virtue of it's popularity alone.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Supergrass
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/18/why-smart-people-are-better-off-with-fewer-friends/

From Article:
"more intelligent individuals were actually less satisfied with life if they socialized with their friends more frequently."

You guys DO know that their is an anti-intelligence breeding plan in place, in america and europe, to weed intelligence out of the Goy gene pool, right?

So that they are easier to deceive?

This problem with socialization among intelligent people is merely a symptom of a much larger social engineering system.

Why do you think Leeky Forums exists in the first place?

IT's where all of the intelligent people are herded to contain their perspectives so they don't effect the social engineers little plans.

Leeky Forums is basically containment for intelligent, red-pilled people.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Great thread. It shouldn't die.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@JunkTop
Except for the part where the redpill is spread.

Where at the least globalism is challenged.

That may have been the original idea, but it is going. The more they call people like Trump names and then they are proven right and predicted something, the more people will show up.

It's kind of inevitable.

The r-types you can't wake up anyway, there are just lots of them now.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@JunkTop
When everyone is forced to attend public schools it causes a regression to the cultural mean and outliers, like the intelligent, are often bullied or ostracized. We should have three tiers of schools that cater to the aptitudes of the bottom third, middle third and top third of children. Males and females are also fundamentally different and respond to different incentives so gender segregated classes would be a good idea too.

The cult of equality continues to cause dysfunction.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@BinaryMan
a way of thinking, behaving, or doing something that has been used by the people in a particular group, family, society, etc., for a long time
Tradition is not good or evil, it can just as well be preservatin of fire as it can be the worshipping of ashes. Only a fucking retard would consider traditions inherently good.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Stupidasole
Sounds mighty lot like centralized planning ordering people what to do. Are you a commie, user?

SniperGod
SniperGod

@w8t4u
DIO please. What I'm proposing is discrimination based on essentially class, sex (and race too). I'm promoting natural hierarchy and the nature > nurture argument. I also believe the superior outcomes of these educational arrangements (which were often the norm in the past) would lead to them being adopted if parents had free choice and weren't brainwashed by the equality cult. I'm also opposing centralized standardized public schooling.

Commies would want to fucking kill me.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Supergrass
people say smart people are miserable, but im not really sure I buy that ebin may may everyone says, if you have an IQ of over 130, Id imagine itd be easy to find other people you like, to have a big smart person circle jerk

I think "smart" people who fit this meme are low 100s who grow up in an area full of vapid dumbasses

at least thats how I feel about myself

Emberburn
Emberburn

@viagrandad
It's been said more than once in time that black Africans are the proudest though they have the least to proud of. Self-awareness is both a great strength and thorn.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Emberburn
I actually dont think im all that self aware

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

https://vimeo.com/134135271

Methshot
Methshot

@viagrandad
Just because your smart doesn't mean you aren't a faggot.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@eGremlin
@Flameblow
He's gay, but he has a good grasp of masculinity. Not every gay is a flaming whiny faggot.

Methshot
Methshot

Some books on the subject.

Sperm Wars

The Rational Male

The Moral Animal

Sex at Dawn: The Prehistoric Origins of Modern Sexuality

The Selfish Gene

The Way of Men

None of these books, in my opinion, grasp the full picture or are 100% correct on all counts. But they all contain varying amounts of the truth.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@New_Cliche
Checked.

Great insight to boot user.

Skullbone
Skullbone

bump

Soft_member
Soft_member

@massdebater
Every

Single

Time

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Anyone have an idea how sociobiology, evolutionary psychology, biohistory, etc. fit into some kind of unified theory?

Flameblow
Flameblow

Give me your best refutations of Guns, Germs and Steel by (((Jared Diamond))). It's usually the first thing I'm hit with when arguing with an intelligent egalitarian.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Flameblow
Homo Sapien
Learn how to spell your own species first

RavySnake
RavySnake

@kizzmybutt
@Raving_Cute
Brainwash: Race
Mainly it focused on good things about races, but did spend quite some time on African IQ. It led to some pretty uncomfortable conversations and cuckservatives showing their colors.

They talked to far right and far left so you really see the lefties wanting to SHUT IT DOWN.

Yeah I finally watched it. After knowing what I already knew from being here, it was mostly funny watching him be super uncomfortable. I thought it was funny when he went to the anti-racism office and the guy was like 'oh, the blacks come in late, it's fine'.

His biggest problem seems to be reconciling multiculturalism with actual facts. When he started talking about his children and how he wants them to act, I couldn't help but think of pics related.

The solution for that one black guy isn't to be there and hope for something, it's to carve out an intelligence based black nation somewhere. Not force whites in that country out of work the way we have been in America. Or even worse in South Africa.

When he said that he thought it would be dangerous how that information could be used 'against certain population groups' I was like, well maybe they can stop commuting white genocide and go be in their own damn nation, because that's when that becomes the most irrelevant statement ever. Group differences only matter when they must live together and then the invaders are given special treatment.

@Emberburn
The documentary has the potential to be used as a huge red-pill for normies. I post it at every opportunity hoping that it goes viral, but it has been at around 30,000 views for about a year. Maybe a separate thread should be made to try and meme Brainwash: Race into the mainstream.

@PackManBrainlure
It's quite simply the most useful, powerful, positive red pill on the race question available.

Possible, but I'm not sure. The problem is that it has that in the title, and immediately sets out talking about it. It does go about things in the most politically correct way possible, and spends a lot of time with everybody being uncomfortable. But the conclusion is basically, 'let's hope that's wrong'.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@SomethingNew
guiz

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Illusionz
this is easily the most difficult book I've ever read, and probably the most important

if you want to know what's wrong with the world and understand why it sucks so badly, you need to read this book

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Social constructionism is the belief that human nature does not matter or exist, and that most of what we believe about human nature is actually the product of human institutions and cultures, and therefore open to be changed.

Sociobiology is the belief that human beings have real natures and natural purposes, but natures and purposes that are fully intelligible through evolution and not really different from those of the other animals.

Biotechnology is not so much a belief but a project, which involves using our knowledge of human biology to improve human life and perhaps remake human nature.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Before scientists discovered the truth about sociobiology, we were blindly controlled by evolutionary forces we did not understand. Religion, morality, and philosophy were only illusory adaptive mechanisms. But once we discovered the truth of sociobiology — the truth that we are no different than other natural animals — its truth begins to become less true. The evolution of our species — unlike all the other animals — will become to some extent conscious and willful.

Wilson presents this new understanding of our biological natures as an unstable middle point between complete genetic determination and complete freedom from such determination. He knows that the era of sociobiology will be followed rather quickly by the era of biotechnology. Soon enough, knowledge that can only ambiguously be called “self-knowledge” will allow us to alter our “hard biological substructure,” our genetic composition, and thus our human nature. By determining what our genes are, we will be able to change what natural evolution means us to be.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Neuroscientists who work on the human brain seldom mention free will. Most consider it a subject better left, at least for the time being, to philosophers. Meanwhile, their sights are set on discovering the physical basis of consciousness, of which free will is a part. No scientific quest is more important to humanity. Everyone — scientists, philosophers, and religious believers alike — can agree with the neurobiologist Gerald Edelman that “[c]onsciousness is the guarantor of all we hold human and precious. Its permanent loss is considered equivalent to death, even if the body persists in its vital signs.”

The physical basis of consciousness won’t be an easy phenomenon to grasp. The human brain is the most complex system, either organic or inorganic, known in the universe. Each of the billions of nerve cells (neurons) composing its functional part forms synapses and communicates with an average of ten thousand others; each launches messages along its own axon pathway using an individual digital code of membrane-firing patterns. The brain is organized into regions, nuclei, and staging centers that divide functions among them. These regions respond in different ways to hormones and sensory stimuli originating from outside the brain, while sensory and motor neurons all over the body communicate so intimately with the brain as to be virtually a part of it.

http://harpers.org/archive/2014/09/on-free-will/?single=1

Techpill
Techpill

@Nude_Bikergirl
If you liked Political Ponerology, maybe you would like add, Under the Sign of the Scorpion for reading. It gives a better picture of what Lobacewski was dealing with.

https://archive.org/details/UnderTheSignOfTheScorpion

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Nude_Bikergirl
The documentary might be more suited for some.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIuW-vNQsQI

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Evil_kitten
Actually IQ becomes more noticeably hereditary with age

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@kizzmybutt
@Raving_Cute
Brainwash: Race
Mainly it focused on good things about races, but did spend quite some time on African IQ. It led to some pretty uncomfortable conversations and cuckservatives showing their colors.

They talked to far right and far left so you really see the lefties wanting to SHUT IT DOWN.

Yeah I finally watched it. After knowing what I already knew from being here, it was mostly funny watching him be super uncomfortable. I thought it was funny when he went to the anti-racism office and the guy was like 'oh, the blacks come in late, it's fine'.

His biggest problem seems to be reconciling multiculturalism with actual facts. When he started talking about his children and how he wants them to act, I couldn't help but think of pics related.

The solution for that one black guy isn't to be there and hope for something, it's to carve out an intelligence based black nation somewhere. Not force whites in that country out of work the way we have been in America. Or even worse in South Africa.

When he said that he thought it would be dangerous how that information could be used 'against certain population groups' I was like, well maybe they can stop commuting white genocide and go be in their own damn nation, because that's when that becomes the most irrelevant statement ever. Group differences only matter when they must live together and then the invaders are given special treatment.

@Emberburn
The documentary has the potential to be used as a huge red-pill for normies. I post it at every opportunity hoping that it goes viral, but it has been at around 30,000 views for about a year. Maybe a separate thread should be made to try and meme Brainwash: Race into the mainstream.

@PackManBrainlure
It's quite simply the most useful, powerful, positive red pill on the race question available.

Possible, but I'm not sure. The problem is that it has that in the title, and immediately sets out talking about it. It does go about things in the most politically correct way possible, and spends a lot of time with everybody being uncomfortable. But the conclusion is basically, 'let's hope that's wrong'.>>5633684
Wilson presents this new understanding of our biological natures as an unstable middle point between complete genetic determination and complete freedom from such determination. He knows that the era of sociobiology will be followed rather quickly by the era of biotechnology. Soon enough, knowledge that can only ambiguously be called “self-knowledge” will allow us to alter our “hard biological substructure,” our genetic composition, and thus our human nature. By determining what our genes are, we will be able to change what natural evolution means us to be.
Fucking Hideauze

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Sir_Gallonhead
Wilson presents this new understanding of our biological natures as an unstable middle point between complete genetic determination and complete freedom from such determination. He knows that the era of sociobiology will be followed rather quickly by the era of biotechnology. Soon enough, knowledge that can only ambiguously be called “self-knowledge” will allow us to alter our “hard biological substructure,” our genetic composition, and thus our human nature. By determining what our genes are, we will be able to change what natural evolution means us to be.
Fucking Hideauze

didn't notice it kept the text from before in the box

FastChef
FastChef

@Need_TLC
Actually IQ becomes more noticeably hereditary with age
Noticeable in what way?

TechHater
TechHater

Most of us would agree that human sacrifice is a bad idea. Yet many ancient civilizations (and some more modern ones) engaged in religious rituals that involved sacrificing people. Why do so many societies evolve a system of human sacrifice, despite the obvious moral drawbacks? A group of social scientists has just published a statistical analysis in Nature that reveals how this grisly practice has fairly predictable results, which benefit elites in socially stratified cultures.

The group examined 93 Austronesian cultures in the Pacific Islands, drawing information from the Pulotu Database of Pacific Religions to determine which groups had human sacrifice and when. Previous analysts have suggested that human sacrifice helps to maintain social stratification. In this new study, the researchers wanted to understand the relationship between human sacrifice and social stratification over time.

Evidence of human sacrifice was observed in 40 of the 93 cultures sampled (43%).

Human sacrifice was practiced in 5 of the 20 egalitarian societies (25%),

17 of the 46 moderately stratified societies (37%), and

18 of the 27 highly stratified societies (67%) sampled.

What they found is probably not too surprising, though it is revealing. Human sacrifice has the effect of maintaining stability in highly stratified cultures, and it can also turn a moderately stratified society into a highly stratified one. Interestingly, egalitarian societies that introduced human sacrifice did not become stratified.

Unpalatable as it might be, our results suggest that ritual killing helped humans transition from the small egalitarian groups of our ancestors, to the large stratified societies we live in today.

They also point out that their work calls into question recent research on the pro-social role of religion in the development of civilization. "Religious rituals also played a darker role in the evolution of modern complex societies," they write. If the "ritual" you're talking about is human sacrifice, that seems like a fair assessment.

http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/04/thanks-to-math-we-can-calculate-the-benefits-of-human-sacrifice/?comments=1&start=40

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@5mileys
Socioanything
science

FastChef
FastChef

Imagine if we could call ourselves by the ancestral name of "Human" instead of white.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Skullbone
@Spazyfool
As a Jew, I can tell you're absolutely right. My first reaction to the the painting was apathy and lack of interest, and even felt they were a distasteful for describing a godly scene which should be an-iconic, but then I tough how would I view them if I was a native European Christian, and I realized that someone like that could view this painting under a totally different light and expectations, as representing a divine host.
Indeed, the expectation from art is to by worthy of deep analyzes and interpretation and to have a commentary on society, not to dwell on achieving beautiful art, since no one can imitate God's perfect creation of beauty and any attempt to do so is vain arrogance.
The traditional christian take on beauty and iconism is thus seem to express christian ignorance and a lack of awe of the true nature of scriptures and the nature of God.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Need_TLC
Actually IQ becomes more noticeably hereditary with age
Noticeable in what way?>>5661804
Unpalatable as it might be, our results suggest that ritual killing helped humans transition from the small egalitarian groups of our ancestors, to the large stratified societies we live in today.
That suggests 'we' as in global we. The Aryan never did that.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@PackManBrainlure
I will do my best to respond. given the shots I've had I'm the second person you linked to.

Reading back that second line I wrote, it really feels somewhat offensive, because it is a barbaric oversimplification. That's because words will never be able to capture what it does. Not remotely.

As a Jew, I can tell you're absolutely right. My first reaction to the the painting was apathy and lack of interest, and even felt they were a distasteful for describing a godly scene which should be an-iconic, but then I tough how would I view them if I was a native European Christian, and I realized that someone like that could view this painting under a totally different light and expectations, as representing a divine host.
At least you are trying. You immediately launched into analyzation mode, which is what I was talking about before. It also shows how much Christianity really is simply white/European.

Indeed, the expectation from art is to by worthy of deep analyzes and interpretation and to have a commentary on society
It's like it went totally over your head in every sense of the phrase.

The traditional christian take on beauty and iconism is thus seem to express christian ignorance and a lack of awe of the true nature of scriptures and the nature of God.
I can only describe this sentence as a doubling-down on a faulty premise.
Actually it's somewhat offensive that you even used the word 'iconism' in that sentence.

The point I was making in that first line is that that is the reason art has devolved to the point of having "paintings" that are just a blank canvas, or a canvas that has essentially been shot at at random with a paintball gun. What I was saying is that Jews seem to value highly or exclusively word-smithery, and enjoy art that allows them to exercise that muscle as much as possible, no matter what worth that art actually holds. You showed what I was saying was true by responding in the way you did. It's still helpful, though. Possibly to your own understanding as well.

Now that I understand that there are entirely different worldviews and frames of reference, I seem to be able to use them.

Given that our sort of art has been essentially and de facto been outlawed, perhaps it can begin to dawn on you just why we feel so persecuted today.

Especially because the way you just constructed everything you said is how our own schools teach us things, with that same frame of reference and worldview. It is completely incompatible with us genetically. I know this because I feel things now that I am aware of this difference that I never felt before. Very powerfully so.

I don't know where you are on Nationalism vs Globalism, but I'm glad you're trying to understand. I know you guys aren't stupid, unlike mudslimes but understanding each other could help us both through what we're going through now. Because the only other option is the full on we're just at war permanently option. Which seems sad to me if that's what we have to go for.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Sociobiology will only be widely acceptable if we agree to call it Sociobiologism and adopt anti-racist, LGBT queer acceptance, and gender neutral, trans-friendly research and publication standards.
I mean, come ON! IT'S 2016!

Skullbone
Skullbone

It's a suppressed branch of science because it might lead people to the "wrong" conclusions.

Like evolutionary psychology, or psych studies with the races separated into different groups.

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