LEFT VS RIGHT

Methnerd
Methnerd

Hey Leeky Forums, I 've been thinking about the end game for a while now.

What is the end game, for the right wing? What is the end game for the left wing?

I THINK that I've got the left-wing end game figured out, because its fairly simple - the total product of all communist and socialist (and anarchist) thought is one world government. Lefties don't like it, but it's pretty obvious that this is a goal that is being pursued by a lot of influential people. Please name them in this thread.

The right wing end game, it seems to me, lies in distant, distinct city-states (or corporatocracies) that are separate and beholden to only their own ideals and ways of living. Please explain

to me the appeal of a right wing end game, or at least explain what it is, because I cannot figure out where the game ends - is it in the sacrosanct maintenance of cultural tradition ? Family values? Is it all just survival in the end?

Please educate me, I'm really struggling. What are we fighting for, exactly?

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https://youtu.be/71FkF_4b-X8
Emberburn
Emberburn

first for an end to degeneracy

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Emberburn

what does that lead to, exactly? A totalitarian government where I can't fuck my wife in the ass if I want?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

For our people, our nation, our culture.

TechHater
TechHater

Kill all jews, remove all traces of marxism and its effects.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Flameblow
see, you are a straight male having sex with his straight wife.

boring normalfag spotted.

thinking hetero wife sex is degenerate.

wew

Nojokur
Nojokur

how about ending gay sex in the streets of san francisco where children are allowed to see nude faggots and dykes, or teaching children about two mommies two daddies or moms who were born with a wee-wee. the left wants to encourage this, because we are all free and equal, the right wants to end it because we should be free from forced faggotry.

Illusionz
Illusionz

You can't ask us what our "end-game" is, because we don't know. We simply dont want overwhelming degeneracy, mentally-ill transpeople and our borders and people being ripped apart. At least that's what I feel.

[spoiler]The endgame for a majority here is probably a fourth reich[spoiler]

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

liberals:NOOO STOP TALKING SHIT ABOUT MY COMPLETELY COMMUNIST IDEOLOGY, WE HAVE A RIGHT TO EXIST IN UR SOCIETY TOO, NAZIS GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
some faggot bothered to make that.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Methnerd
There is no left or right, lurk more.
Tell me why should a Libertarian and a Fascist be adjacent to eachother on a spectrum?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@TalkBomber

Ok so where does that get us? We have our nation and our culture, cool. Is the end goal of right wing thought the improvement of humanity by restricting differing (perhaps inferior) ways of life?

OK, I can get behind that, so tell me - is the end game of right wing thought to maintain hegemony? Should we be practicing eugenics?

@AwesomeTucker

Sodomy is still illegal in a bunch of states, is that right?

@Nojokur

OK so you have a view o how society should be, and you don't want anyone else to tell you how society should be. I understand that, but is it better if all the fags and mom-dads are in hiding?

You know, the end game here is that people are gonna people, and you can't actually stop them. So that's why I ask, what utopia is it that you seek?

@Illusionz

If you don't have an end game, you're not even playing, senpai. I would love for the end game to be the betterment of all humanity, but I am unsure how best to proceed.

askme
askme

I guess in the end most of just want to get rid of the jews and what the jews stand for.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Evil_kitten
betterment of all humanity
How about just European descendant humanity?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Evil_kitten
You're a fucking dumbass who's already made up his mind, I'm calling it now.

You're already injecting your own rationalisms into other peoples arguments, and you're going to continue to do this.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Methnerd
I don't agree with that image, for one religion is inherently Left wing.

Overarching theme of individuality I can agree with though.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Evil_kitten
Sodomy is still illegal in a bunch of states, is that right?
Nope. Lawrence v Texas, 2004. All anti-sodomy laws declared unconstitutional.

@Playboyize
Pretty much. It's obvious. That's why answers should only come in the form of irrefutable facts.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

The goal of the left is not just a one world government but a one world government controlled by the Jews where the goyim are racially homogenized into a brown unremarkable mass that willingly serve their kike masters.

The end game of the right is the removal of kikes from relevance ( kill them if we have to ) and allow the order of separate nations. Northern Europe will naturally rise to the top in this scenario because of genetics.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@MPmaster

I understand, but as far as I know Libertarianism and Fascism are both on the right. I am trying to figure out how the pieces on the board are played. I understand there are nuances, but here's the kicker;

The left wing is pretty blatant about everyone being treated equally, leading to people being free, which has caused no end of trouble.

The right is pretty blatant about having less government, leading to people being free, which has caused no end of trouble.

The left idealises a large(r) that controls all of the necessary functions of a state, such as economy, trade, defense etc.

We know that in practice this leads to a small number of party faithful that do as they will with the country, often to the detriment of the poor.

@Carnalpleasure

Give me to me. Is it really "Don't Tread on Me?"

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Evil_kitten
Why should we have an endgame? Im no fucking mastermind or puppeteer. Is it now all of a sudden wrong of me for having the beliefs I have just because I cant paint up my ideal society 50 years from now?

You seem pretty retarded.

TechHater
TechHater

@TurtleCat
Give me to me.
wut …

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Both wings are just tools of the globalists. Only thing matters is your nation. Economic matters can solved when we aren't under constant threat of oblivion.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@TechHater

you know what i meant

@ZeroReborn

The people who control us have an end game. I want to know if it's more than just maintaining the status quo, which is kinda shit for anyone who isn't rich.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@TurtleCat
about everyone being treated equally

that's not it.

their ideological lineage is judeo-christian, their ideas of "equality" come from the ideas of humans being "souls" not just biological machines. Which they're wrong about of course.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@PurpleCharger

Why does what fucking shithole I was born in matter?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Spazyfool
GET OUT MUD

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@TurtleCat

There is no Left vs Right really

It is Aryan vs Jew, everything else is a function of this. Some aspects of libertarianism are incredibly Jewish ( open borders, materialism ) while others are not ( gun ownership ).

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Supergrass

Nah I'm Australian, second only to Sweden in cuckedness. The country is a mess, and I'm trying to figure out why.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@StrangeWizard
you know what i meant
No, I don't. "Give me to me" makes zero sense.

@ZeroReborn
I think the problem is that OP is thinking in terms of black and white, left and right; without realizing the complexity of social change.

For example, look at his pic. The "left" in the pic says to "interfere with social lives", but it's the "right" who wants to put government in the bedroom and control the private lives of citizens. Also, the left says "Democrats", but that doesn't take into account the Blue Dog Democrats and Dixiecrats - both of whom are very right wing conservative.

There's just too much there that makes no sense to a person who can see the broader picture and not stay focused on an individual tree in a forest.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Garbage Can Lid
@Spazyfool

Colonial mutts can jump in the sea and drown for all I care.

girlDog
girlDog

@TurtleCat

So a supposedly right wing NatSoc such as myself wants a smaller government as a defining principle? But an anarchist whos catagorically left wing is still left wing despite wanting as little governance as possible?

Do you still not understand that you are arguing under a false notion?
The pieces don't fit because its easier for people to thiink of terms of false dichotomies than it is to think about the principles that govern an ideology.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Garbage Can Lid
I'm Australian
NOW it makes sense. It's always an Australian,

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@StrangeWizard
No it's not about maintaining the status quo. The current status quo is 1 million sandniggers flooding into Sweden + Germany, the current status quo is a LGBTQI-person in every commercial, in every tv-show etc.

I just want my country, free from foreign people, free from lgbtq-propaganda, free from muh selfie-culture.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Methnerd
scientists, professors, architects
left wing
lel

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Need_TLC

Is this just a natural development of the spectrum? How can I choose what is best for me and my wife and son?

@Boy_vs_Girl

Give 'it' to me

Sorry!

I just want to know what's best for me and my family, and I have discovered that my previous left-wing ideals are leading us into a one world government, and I don't fucking like it.

The anarchists, the punks, all the hippies, they have all been co-opted into the NWO before they even knew it was happening.

I want some goddamn freedom, and I want it my way (whatever the fuck that is)

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Spazyfool
Why does what fucking shithole I was born in matter?

It doesn't. It matters when you're sullying our societies with your presence however.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@SomethingNew
Sorry.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Methnerd

if Left Vs Right don't refer to the real divide which is Nationalism Vs Globalism then we should stop using these concepts

SniperGod
SniperGod

@PackManBrainlure

I am half Danish and quarter Swedish. The blood of warriors flows in my veins.

@Skullbone

Why is my country better than yours? Is it just about power?

WebTool
WebTool

@RavySnake
Why?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@TreeEater

Racial homogeneity and strong leadership are the most important things ( this applies to whether you are white or a shitskin doesnt matter ), and never trust a kike. That's about it if one were to keep it simple. If a politician claims to be "right" or "conservative" but does not advocate against immigration/forced integration just bin that cunt.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@WebTool
Why what?

FastChef
FastChef

@VisualMaster

Why are liberal democrats the lowest form of politicians?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Skullbone

Both are globalists in most countries. The left just thinks they bite off the chain hold by the rich corporate globalists if they bark at nationalists enough.

@SniperGod

Just jump in the Indian Ocean already. It's not matter of your nation (which you don't have, being a colonial) being the best, it's about your nation being the only one you got.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@FastChef
Are you still going to ignore the refutation?
@girlDog

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@FastChef
want gay marriage
take away our guns
open borders
multiculturalism
welfare state

farquit
farquit

@TurtleCat
@JunkTop

That's no longer true, I can hold 2 passports if I want, and gain entry to many countries. Most Aussies have some ability to get at least one second citizenship if the apply, from Britain or Europe.

It seems to me that the right is afraid that they'll lose what they have, and the left is hopeful of what they will gain. Would you say that's correct, at least in part?

I am still trying to figure out why I should make my nation a bastion of all that is right and true, when I know that nobody in government can be trusted.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

At this point in time the Globalist vs Nationalist dynamic is THE agenda. Left and right mainstream parties want globalism, as well as the far left. Only the much to be feared far right parties want sovereignty and nationalism.

Globalist capitalism and globalist communism lead to the same things. Wages, prices, laws and values harmonized worldwide. China, Russia, Poland, Hungary, etc. - former Communist countries - are actually more nationalist than many Western nations who idealize international organisations such as the UN. Former communist nations are not so easily fooled by the appeal to humanitarian causes that these organisations use to soak up Western support.

The difference, as explained in the video, is the the mainstream right parties want to lead globalism by force and the left want to promote it through international organisations and multilateral action.

National socialists and libertarians seem to share the belief in sovereignty and nationalism (to a lesser extent for libertarians) above such globalist agendas, they're the true alternative.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Dreamworx

I understand what you're saying, but you're hiding behind your own labels.

I don't understand what's going on., but I want to know why a NatSoc government is preferable, in the long run.

I don't really understand what the dichotomies between left and right are, or if they even exist, so I'm asking for help here, and I haven't received that many credible answers. I want to know why homogeneity is preferable, and what the end game of a right wing government is. I cannot yet see it as any more than the maintenance of power, of the status quo. That seems, to me, to be the catch-cry of who MIGHT lose what they have. I want to know what the end game is, that's all.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@kizzmybutt

Watching this now, will get back to you

StonedTime
StonedTime

@kizzmybutt

Does what you're saying equate to Imperialism ( so that all other people will WANT to live like us)?

FastChef
FastChef

@Emberburn
@Flameblow
The easiest way to think of degeneracy is to picture rot. When something tits it weakens the whole and creates a miasma around whatever is rotting. The social effect of degeneracy is therefore a weakening of fundamental social institutions while those who struggle to maintain the norm lose faith in the institutions they try to adhere to.

If you look at Trump as an abti-degeneracy candidate, you would see that he's standing against general degeneracy within America and is appealing to the normal people who recognize that there's something wrong with America.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Methnerd
hiding behind labels
Those 'labels' are ideologies, and ideologies are more real than the scale you posit to measure them. There is no left or right, and if you can't see the inherent necessity of homogenity, than you need only examine the history of nations that lost that homogenity.
Nations only function efficiently if everyone is moreso on the same page, individual cultures driven by their ethnic and religous history will have incompatibilities with groups unlike them.
The focus does not matter aslong as there is one, there can't be one when the nation is in a state of turmoil.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@StonedTime

The video is a bit long and a lot of it is off track of my point, but worth a watch if you have time. The really relevant parts is where he outlines the differing 'grand strategies' of the US on the left and the right, the point being, they're both globalist.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@whereismyname

Grand stategies explanation comes at around 10:50 in.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Methnerd
The model is obsolete. It fits the dying western, liberal democratic left/right scale. (Where everyone's somewhat a liberal) True nationalists, or just anyone with a healthy sense of tribalism are beyond that.

@SniperGod
3/4 Danish, 1/4 Swedish reporting in. *tipper vikingehjelm*

@RavySnake
@WebTool
@FastChef
Based Patton was always right. If you have questions you need to lurk moar.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Methnerd
What a stupid, pigeonholing image. We really need to stop with the dichotomy garbage.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Stupidasole

Do you think, if you had the fortune or misfortune to be born in Somalia, or Israel, that you would consider yourself to be so superior?

How can we bridge those divides and still maintain our homogeneity?

What you are talking about is power over everyone else who deals with you, which is - perhaps- human. Is that what you're saying? Dominate the globe?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@FastChef
Of course, in using such a definition of degeneracy it becomes evident that degeneracy changes amongst people depending on their own firm belief in what makes a fundamental social institution.

A left wing uber-cuck for example might see race-mixing and raising another's children as inherently noble acts, and the discrimination against multi-racial couples, monogamy, and a father's right to patent as degenerate.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Illusionz

I'm really enjoying it, no fear

massdebater
massdebater

@Stark_Naked

Please explain what 'beyond that' means

idontknow
idontknow

@FastChef
Of course, in using such a definition of degeneracy it becomes evident that degeneracy changes amongst people depending on their own firm belief in what makes a fundamental social institution.

A left wing uber-cuck for example might see race-mixing and raising another's children as inherently noble acts, and the discrimination against multi-racial couples, monogamy, and a father's right to parent as degenerate.

Methshot
Methshot

@Stupidasole

I'll go further - 75% of Israelis are jews, are they the poster child for your homogenous nation? What about Japan, where more adult diapers are sold than children's diapers? What do you mean?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@idontknow

Do you consider yourself right wing or conservative? What are your beliefs?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

This chart smells like bullshit to me. You can't just put a bunch of charactaristics on the left or right side
I hate it when people use muh left wing or muh right wing. Nothing but a tool to try and shut people up like the word racist when you argue with someone who seems to be on the other side of some sort of spectrum.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Skullbone

POL, ave no beliefs. You have disappointed me. You have only fear, fear of what may come if you let your guard down. Fear that you might have to change.

You are all pitiful. You face so many threats, but the greatest threat is your own fear of yourselves, and the fear you may lose what you have.

You have no problem with terrorists, yet you fear them to the point of funding your government billions of dollars to fight them.

You are not hated by anyone, the rest of the world is trying to get by and you keep fucking with them.

The chart doesn't matter, it was just an image. No-one has refuted it or offered another one, so I am still in the dark - what is the point of conservatism, except for maintaining a power base.

I don't want to push for NWO, I think we'll all be truly reamed, but I can't fight for the homogeneity of Australia either, because it just didn't exist 300 years ago. Who knows what will happen in 300 years from now. What the fuck should I fight for? Some goddamn conservative puritan values? Should I fight for the Queen, is that supporting conservatism?

Whatever, it doesn't matter. Someone convince me why I should fight for some goddamn 50's Happy Days values and I will. All charts are bullshit. Trump is a billionaire who has snorted all the coke and fucked heaps of degenerate women. You are all supporting hegemony that only provides for all of the amazing benefits you have right now, like low wages, staggering rent, minimal problem.

If I were you, I'd start wondering how the goddamn Mexicans might improve your shitty country, rather than asking when it is you'll start pumping gas or building shitty apartments or less than minimum wage.

You have already lost, I think.

What really spins me out is that from the replies in this thread the greatest country in the world in North Korea (relatively self-suficient, aside from starvation), followed by Israel, Japan and China. They don't give a fuck about the west, it blows me away.

Final (and first) question: How can right wing thinking win? What's the end game? How can this ideal become manifest?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@farquit

Your passport doesn't give you a nation, you dog.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@RumChicken
tl;dr

Illusionz
Illusionz

@TreeEater
I want some goddamn freedom
You have some.

and I want it my way
That's where the problem comes in. You can have it your way provided your freedom doesn't infringe on someone else's. You have to define your freedom before you can have it, though.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@RumChicken

Prove me wrong, show me what the ideal you want is. DON'T TELL ME WHAT IT ISN'T, you faggots.

I want to know what the benefit of limiting manufacturing and produce IN COUNTRY is, or is it in the best interests of the country in question to trade freely so that corporations (not governments) make all the profit, and hence get all the power.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@massdebater
Whether it's good for us or not is the question.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@TreeEater

Well what the fuck IS the question?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@RumChicken
How can right wing thinking win? What's the end game? How can this ideal become manifest?

It can win but only so long as there isn't a bigger tougher guy on the block to take it from them. Bigger and tougher these days means scientifically advanced. Most countries in the world merely replicate the advancements made by Western nations. This shouldn't be hard.

The end game is that each country has it's own set of values, people and culture.

It can come around by choosing the 'offshore balancing' strategy as presented in the video. By preventing regional hegemons you successfully prevent challengers to your power without trying to dominate the world which is futile and leads to self-sacrificial policies such as multiculturalism.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@RumChicken

You wouldn't understand. As a colonial peon, you exist only for economic interest of the elite, you have no heritage, your blood isn't tied to the soil you walk on.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@RumChicken
14/88

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Fuzzy_Logic

You're no different, slave.

@BinaryMan

Ok, so we're all fighting to maintain our own set of (handed-down and mis and/or re-interpreted beliefs, in the hope that this will lead to a stronger, more secure platform/nation-state.

I can run with that.

Do you think it's truly for the greater good, or is it a battle between the most powerful nation-state versus an entire global government state?

girlDog
girlDog

@Methnerd
left
personal freedom
would ban you owning a glock 17
OP that .png is fucking shit.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Soft_member

If it's the former, don't you think China should win?

likme
likme

https://youtu.be/71FkF_4b-X8

They have the divite rite to fuck with your heads.
It only works if you let them.
95% of "people" absolutely surrender their free will to these beings.
They believe the electronic warefare has made them much stronger, actually it has given them an a weak point.
What a time to be alive.
2016

year of the flaming monkey

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Evil_kitten
@Skullbone
You fucking retard, stop injecting your reasoning into other peoples arguments. Not once did I mention anything about superiority, I stated that nations function better when its citizens are alike. Every peoples should have their own nation, whether they be white, african, asian and yes even Jews.

A Jewish state is the answer to yhe international wandering Jew, the problem with Israel is that they retain their intermingling with every other nation. Every people should value their own above others, to do otherwise is pathological altruism.

idontknow
idontknow

@Soft_member
You're no different, slave.

You are wrong in that. Please end your existance. Even the abo sniffing petrol has more worth than you.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Soft_member
Do you think it's truly for the greater good, or is it a battle between the most powerful nation-state versus an entire global government state?

I don't see how a global government can ever be good. Most government is too centralized as it is when it should be more local and accountable. Centralized government is easily corrupted because the cost of corrupting them is so much less, so much quicker and easier than having to corrupt every local official in a country.

On top of this global government would mean compromising massively on values and the eradication of cultural differences. Multiculturalism always leads to monoculture, look at any past civilization. Nationalism actually protects cultural differences as long as it isn't intent on global domination.

The Chinese and Russians recently signed a joint declaration stating their intent to respect different cultures and values. Meanwhile the US and EU try to homogenize the world through non-governmental organisations. Ask the Chinese and Russians if they want world government. You simply can't have it unless everyone is on board.

The plan is insane and will be the end of Western rule if we don't cut it out. Foreign people, cultures and values will push out the very things which made our countries prosperous and powerful in the first place.

FastChef
FastChef

@Methnerd
What is the end game, for the right wing? What is the end game for the left wing?
It doesn't matter.
The left/right dichotomy is nothing more than a smokescreen to distract the common man.

The real political breakdown of every nation in the world is nationalist/globalist.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Skullbone
I consider myself a leftist plant in the alt-right serving as a double agent to.no.one in particular.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Methnerd

The "end game" of "right wing" ideology is simple in concept, complex in practice

The simple concept, is the preservation of basic rights to ensure the people, not the power brokers, direct society in the way they choose, but without ever sacrificing the individual liberties that ensure their freedom and prosperity

In practice, what this would mean, is that the nation itself can take any direction it wants, as long as the basic foundations of liberties are not taken away.

Look at Nazi Germany, it was socialist and by all accounts in modern thinking, SHOULD be considered left wing on that basis. HOWEVER, its consider right wing? Why? Because they held to the ideas of liberty in general, at least to start. From there, they directed themselves and did what they thought was best for the society

Likewise, by all world views, the US is "right wing" and many consider the democrats in the US to be "moderate right," yet we view them as far left, at least this was true 5 years ago, so why? Because, in principle, even the left in the US held to basic principles of liberty. Free speech, self defense, protection from government over reach, direction of society by the people, etc. Even democrats in general supported these ideas, hell most democrats until recently still supported gun rights. While the rest of the world? Well, they dont really have free speech, or self defense rights, or protection from their governments, the powers that be can do as they please, and the people have no power to fight back using a constitution, because most of them dont HAVE one.

So, that part is simple, what gets complicated, is when the "society" starts directing more and more power to the government, and starts wanting to take away liberties. Thats when the "right wing" basis of the society fails. Think of the old saying "i may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." Well, what do we have going on right now? People demonstrating and using their free speech, to try to TAKE AWAY free speech. In defense of free speech, we have to let them do this, but at the same time, the thing we're defending, is ATTACKING us.

At that point, "sides" break down. And you're left with two basic mindsets. Authoritarianism, and Libertarianism. Either the government is all powerful and can use violence to enforce the so-called "will of the people," or the government is limited and people are protected from such things.

Which, going back, to answer your question. Means that the "end game" of leftism will be, as you said, an all power government directing the lives of the people and enforcing "left wing" will on the people, and "left wing" will be whatever the sheep are indoctrinated with. While the "end game" of right wing ideology, is actually, self destruction, because they will always fight for liberties, that "left wing" people will use against them, and lead back to this problem once again.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Sharpcharm
This user knows what's up.

WebTool
WebTool

@Evil_kitten
betterment of all humanity
Humanity would benefit if certain large segments of humanity were obliterated. For instance, consider whether it would be better for all humans to be descended from sub-Saharan Africans or from European gentiles.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Spazyfool
Why does what fucking shithole I was born in matter?
That's not what a nation is, retard. Your nation is your race or ethnicity.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@WebTool

Humanity as a whole would be richer with both. Diversity is our strenght, diversity leads to more diverse arts and culture. Nationalism the way to safeguard diversity, globally, in the hopes we eventually spread to the stars and can have a planet for every nation, be it nigger, whitey or native American.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Raving_Cute
Diversity is our strenght, diversity leads to more diverse arts and culture
Diversity is not inherently a strength and is often a weakness. Inserting niggers and Jews has not improved Western art and culture, and were they removed, part of the benefit would be the fact that they would stop being involved with our art and culture.

Nationalism the way to safeguard diversity, globally, in the hopes we eventually spread to the stars and can have a planet for every nation, be it nigger, whitey or native American.
Niggers and prairie niggers are too low-IQ for that. They are incapable of operating in the complex mass society that whites and some Orientals naturally form. Giving them their own planets would mean spending the resources on colony ships to establish planet-size zoos for no reason other than to make liberals feel good.

TechHater
TechHater

le left vs right maymay

is this your first day on Leeky Forums shill?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@BlogWobbles

Your ethnocentrism is disgusting and I assume you are just another filthy colonial mongrel.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@AwesomeTucker
ethnocentrism
mongrel

thanks for the slide thread, kike.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@GoogleCat

Did I hurt your feelings, you minimal worth economic unit?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@AwesomeTucker
"That's racist" is not an argument.

5mileys
5mileys

@Stark_Naked

Ethnocentrism isn't racism, it's just what you ignorant heritageless colonial fucks tend to do.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@5mileys
"That's racist ethnocentrist" is not anargument.

Methshot
Methshot

@hairygrape

Arts and culture aren't product of logic, but you wouldn't know this, being without your own heritage and culture.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Methshot
Arts and culture aren't product of logic

Yeah, that's because they're products of race, dipshit

FastChef
FastChef

@Methshot
Arts and culture aren't product of logic
I never implied they were. I said simply that Western culture was not improved by the addition of niggers and Jews and it would likely be improved by their removal from Western societies.

but you wouldn't know this, being without your own heritage and culture.
America is older than almost every country in Europe :^)

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@LuckyDusty

Your tendency to attribute something to race shows the lack of nation. Pan-white nationalism or any other such pan-racial nonsense is just what you colonial fuckers try to use to substitute the lack of nation you worthless colonial scum have.

@FastChef

Not everything is about western culture. Non-western cultures existing doesn't have to affect western culture. Assuming this shows ignorant ethnocentrism.

America is older than almost every country in Europe :^)

And American nation doesn't exist, so what ever. Countries aren't nations. Nationless people are worthless. You are worthless.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Fried_Sushi
Oh, you're shitposting, nevermind then.

Have fun.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@5mileys
Shitskin/kike acts as if "colonial" is an insult. As if it doesn't remind me of the time my people ruled the world.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Gigastrength

You aren't insulted only because you are unable to understand the insult. It's like insulting a born paraleptic for never being able to dance.

As if it doesn't remind me of the time my people ruled the world.

Your people never ruled anything. Your ancestor were just tools for the domination and now you aren't even connected to the rulers.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Fried_Sushi
Non-western cultures existing doesn't have to affect western culture.
b-b-b-but
Diversity is our strenght, diversity leads to more diverse arts and culture.
Which is it?

American nation doesn't exist
Of course it does. Americans as a nation are older and more firmly established than Germans or Italians.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Fried_Sushi
Shitskin confirm. How do you like being inferior?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@SniperWish
Fake Shitskin History 101, boys.

/oven/index.html

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@TurtleCat

Of course it does. Americans as a nation are older and more firmly established than Germans or Italians.

No it doesn't. Being vaguely brown English speaking mongrel on certain continent isn't a nation. A nation is more than that.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@StonedTime
@GoogleCat

Even the sandnigger shitting on his dune is worth more than you. Atleast it was his ancestor's dune.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Ignoramus
There are more people of pure white British and of pure white German descent in America than there are in Europe. Miscegenation was illegal in most of the country until a couple generations ago and continues to be rare except between minorities.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Dreamworx
Oh, the poor poor shitskin's feewings awe huwt.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Garbage Can Lid

None of that makes a nation. German/Anglo mix is a mongrel anyway.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@viagrandad
You've either bought into the kike lie that perpetuates White genocide because you're a shitskin's, or you're a kike.

Either way, /oven/index.html

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Spamalot

You assuming I'm not "white" (which is a detestable definition cooked up by heritageless Americans) just shows you have nothing else to cling to than your skin color.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@viagrandad
None of that makes a nation.
Define what makes a nation, then.

German/Anglo mix is a mongrel anyway.
And? I said "pure." Most of Utah is pure white British. The multitudes of Germantowns attest to zones of pure German descent. There are larger areas where Europeans, mostly of Northwestern European descent, mix, and they are pure Americans.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Firespawn

Define what makes a nation, then.

Read something a non-kike wrote about nations. Assuming nations just pop-up, or god forbid anyone in a piece of soil gets to be part of the nation occupying it, is more Jewish drivel.

And? I said "pure." Most of Utah is pure white British. The multitudes of Germantowns attest to zones of pure German descent. There are larger areas where Europeans, mostly of Northwestern European descent, mix, and they are pure Americans.

Neither British or German is part of any American nation. Either they are part of the nation of their ancestors, which they aren't, or they have no nation.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Playboyize
On what grounds does a 400-year old people lack heritage? You might as well knock the Italians while you're at it; their national language only recently reached majority status.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Booteefool

On what grounds does a 400-year old people lack heritage? You might as well knock the Italians while you're at it; their national language only recently reached majority status.

On the grounds that any fucker who fell of the boat can have their descendants be part of the country. There is no nation without common heritage.

massdebater
massdebater

@JunkTop
Read something a non-kike wrote about nations.
educate yourself, shitlord
I want to know what your criteria are, not someone else's.

Neither British or German is part of any American nation.
White British, white Dutch, and white Germans founded America. The American nation is inextricable from them.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@w8t4u
any fucker who fell of the boat can have their descendants be part of the country.
That's only been the case for less than a hundred years. It used to be illegal for non-Europeans to become citizens.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Methnerd

Left-Wing End Game:

renaming the entire planet Earth to Israel
total genocide of non-Jews

Right-Wing End Game:

preserving the diversity of the planet Earth
ethnic states for everybody
total peace
saving wildlife

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@massdebater

You continue to cling to your skin color, as if that was a mark of a nation. You clearly have no heritage of your own. A Dutchman speakign English as their native language is a disgusting mongrel. A German speaking English as their native language is a nauseating traitor to their ancestors.

@TreeEater

Either those Englishmen are English, or they have no nation. So, are you English or are you an "American" mongrel?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@BlogWobbles
You continue to cling to your skin color,
I only brought up skin color to avoid discriminating against the wonderful diverse peoples of Britain, Germany, and the Netherlands, who have as much right to call themselves that as any of the aboriginals do.

Either those Englishmen are English, or they have no nation.
They seceded from England to establish America. That day, they became American.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@BlogWobbles
You're clearly a slide shill. You have no idea what a nation is, nor what bloodlines are. You're just parroting the kike lies about American whites, a 400-year-old nation with its own unique heritage. This is about nations and bloodlines. It has very little to do with skin color alone.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@BlogWobbles
You forgot to answer my question: What, in your opinion, makes a nation?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Supergrass

That day, they became American.

And abadoned their nation, becoming nothing but economic tools of the oligarchs. Then they allowed other traitors to be part of their shitty club and now their country is more brown the average shit of a healthy person.

massdebater
massdebater

@Dreamworx

I don't consider the opinion of you Americans worth anything. You have no nation. There is no unique American heritage. You might as well be banging rocks together and starting your own nation from scratch.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Methnerd
What are we fighting for, exactly?

Competition

Though struggle comes strength. Survival of the fittest. Darwinism. The propagation of only the best bloodlines. It can be all traced back to this.

Everything, and I do mean everything, that leftists do can be explained by their inability to compete. Everything that we do can be explained by attempting to create healthy, strong children.

You can look at the r/K selection theory for the basis of this. r selected species like rabbits breed rapidly and dont compete with each other since they have a near limitless food source they don't need to compete. K selected species like wolves have to compete so only the strongest survive because their food sources are very limited. Humans, as omnivores, are a hybrid. When resources are in abundance we compete less, when they are scarce we compete more.

We all like to not compete sometimes, and some people are just naturally better than others. The left attracts mostly those who dont have the ability to win in a fair competition. They are so often unattractive physically or mentally and have no real skills to speak of.

The more resources there are the less people need to be competing for scarce things all the time. So our years of abundance have created a generation that was born into a world where competition wasn't necessary, and it started to be portrayed as harmful by those who were bad at it. So now we have a generation has never competed, and like any skill it must be practiced. These people flock to liberalism.

But because of our nature we are hard wired to only feel truly fulfilled when we compete. When we struggle our life has purpose. Constantly not-competing and living the easy life fills us with ennui. This is why leftists hate themselves. They hate the fat, lazy, ugly failures that they have become. They hate us more out of jealousy. The same way the NEET is jealous and hateful of the /fit/ guy who has lots of friends.

You'll notice leftists are most common in non-competitive, low skill cap or rigged industries: Journalism, HR, academia, politics, media. Rarely will you find them in high skill cap industries like sports, finance, sciences, IT, and if you do they're working in HR..

They hate free speech, they rig elections, and are always trying to bring down people more successful than them. Free speech would mean their ideas would need to compete. Fair elections mean their candidates would need to compete. Successful people make them look bad. By pouring in millions of barbarians from the 3rd world, they look better in comparison. Now they can more easily get jobs because at least the speak the language and have a basic understanding of how to operate in an office.

All of the bizarre things they support are to make them more sexually competitive. Cuckoldry, faggotry, fat acceptance, pedophilia, bestiality or pretending Bruce Jenner is a beautiful woman and if you dont want to have sex with him you're a racist is to make it so unattractive people (like them) can get laid (at least when Chad is at work). I'm sure you've noticed that most of the leftists are ugly as fuck. Melissa Click, John Flynt, etc. While they are celebrating ugliness and trying to normalize it, we are celebrating greatness and trying to emulate it.

And, of course, this is why we hate the Jews so much. They are the consummate parasite. Instead of competing they leech off the success of others. They've been using these tactics to survive long before Marx, long before the Frankfurt school. Cultural Marxism is just kikery for the masses and it's just as toxic.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Evil_kitten
Well if he was born a jew of course he would think he was superior to all those gutless goyim you moron.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

ITT: No balance or agreement on anything.

You think the right will save you fiscally. And they might. But they want to control the living fuck out of your sex life.

You think the left will lead you into freedom and prosperity? Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff.

I spurn both the right-wing and the left-wing. Because they're both the same: parasites. And the parasite hates three things: free markets, free will, free men. You need to ask yourself a question. Are you a man? Or a slave?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Methnerd
Left and Right paradigm is basically dead.

I am a centrist, by the old ways.

By the new paradigm - which is Nationalist vs Globalist, Authoritarian vs Libertarian - I am an ethnocentric nationalist, deep authoritarian.

What are we fighting for, exactly?
implying we are one person, with one intention
That's where you failed right there.
Also made it rather obvious you aren't a native, as the '/pol/ is one person' may-may is rather stale at this point tbh fam.

Personally though?

For the Federation - a military-controlled, meritocratically-oriented, limited-democracy constitutional republic - I would give my life.

We call upon our troopers, in this our darkest hour,
Our way of life is what we're fighting for,
The flag that flies above us, inspires us each day,
To give our very best, in every way!

It's a good day to die,
When you know the reasons why,
Citizens, we fight for what is right,
A noble sacrifice,
When duty calls, you pay the price,
For the Federation I will give my life!

Well all is fair in love and war,
That's what my gunny says:
You're not alive unless you're almost dyin',
These are the words I march by: Duty, Courage, Honor,
Every single day and I've been tryin'!

It's a good day to die,
When you know the reasons why,
Citizens, we fight for what is right,
A noble sacrifice,
When duty calls, you pay the price,
For the Federation I will give my life!

(Courage, Duty, Honor!)

The Eagle, he flies high above us,
The Eagle, he makes our spirit soar,
He gives me the strength to carry on,
To fight, and win this war!

It's a good day to die,
When you know the reasons why,
Citizens, we fight for what is right,

(Courage, Duty, Honor!)

A noble sacrifice,
When duty calls, you pay the price,
For the Federation I will give my life!

(Courage, Duty, Honor!)

It's a good day to die,
When you know the reasons why,
Citizens, we fight for what is right,
A noble sacrifice,
When duty calls, you pay the price,
For the Federation I will give my life!

(Courage, Duty, Honor!)

For the Federation I will give my life!

Techpill
Techpill

@iluvmen
Strong post.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@PurpleCharger
But they want to control the living fuck out of your sex life.
That would also be an improvement. Fags, racemixers, adulterers, and sluts should be beaten in public, if not executed. Read some Hoppe instead of Jew libertarians.

Free markets don't exist, but they're a nice thought depending on context.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Spazyfool
Everything sounded good, up until your authoritarian angle. I reject this, because it leads to totalitarianism.

What is the difference between a man and a slave? Money? Power? No. A man CHOOSES. A slave OBEYS.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@SniperGod
Fuck off, commie. A man CHOOSES. A slave OBEYS.

*I* control my own destiny. Not you.

Mob justice always destroys a civilized society. You're just as bad as the Muslims.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I think for the right wing, there is no end game. Because for the right wing, they are trying to preserve society. For the left wing, there is an end game. For they are trying to end society, whether they no it or not.

There is degeneration and their is preservation. Degeneration ends with the downfall of society. Preservation never ends, except through failure to preserve.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Methnerd
That graphic was drawn by a huge leftist.

One example is how left wing is "community" and right is "self-relent"

Even though "city folk" are loners and southerners know everyone in town and actually care about family.

likme
likme

@TreeEater
one religion is inherently Left wing.

Autist detected. Go to your spiritual not-religious church and adopt some niggers faggot. Tradition and striving towards the divine is necessary for a healthy man.

Enjoy your nihilistic, "constructed" and relative morality though fam.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@likme
You think the church will save you from whatever bullshit is going down without robbing you blind? YOU are the autist here.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?
NO! Says the man in the Vatican; it belongs to God.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Stark_Naked
southerners know everyone in town and actually care about family.

Who are you bullshitting?

Rube detected.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@RumChicken
POL

TechHater
TechHater

@MPmaster
@iluvmen
Sorry, didn't realize this was an /intl/ thread

NO! Says the man in the Vatican; it belongs to God.

Jesus Christ, /intl/, just fucking run a Wikipedia search on Christianity. I don't give a shit about the Vatican and neither do most Christians.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Evil_kitten
*I* control my own destiny.
How noble. So should we suppose that ZOG still stands then because you in your ubermensch wisdom have consented to their rule?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@viagrandad
ZOG

Stop speaking in acronyms, faggot. Some of us don't know what that means.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@TechHater
Then why are they putting their time, money, and energy into A FUCKING CHURCH? Especially every given Sunday?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Gigastrength
Oh come on.

FastChef
FastChef

@TechHater
Roman Catholic is still the world's largest Christian denomination, so your assessment of "most christians" has no bearing on reality.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

marxist GLOBALISM vs ethno NATIONALISM

Nojokur
Nojokur

@SniperWish
Then why are they putting their time, money, and energy into A FUCKING CHURCH? Especially every given Sunday?

Are you serious /intl/? I don't know what they have in Yugoslavia or Israel or wherever you live but you retards really don't seem to know anything about Christianity at all if you think all or even most Christians have anything to do with the Pope..

5mileys
5mileys

@FastChef
41% is a majority according to /intl/
Kek

no bearing on reality.
Autism speaks

Snarelure
Snarelure

@iluvmen
@Techpill
@Supergrass

Thanks.

While I hate to bring up gamergay it's a perfect case study of this in action.

It also exposes why gamergay failed and how we defeat the marxists.

To sum it up some unskilled ulgly gamedev wannabes made some shit games that no one wanted to play, so they cried to their friends in the media that they were victims and started raking in money on patreon. The GGers exposed a massive ring of corruption, the SJWs were rigging awards shows to promote non-competitive "walking simulators" they attacked every AAA dev they could to shame them into hiring more SJWs who would never have been hired on merit alone.

Gamergay failed to identify that, while useless individually, the SJWs had at greater strength in their unity and identity. While most of the GGers were anonymous and un united.

As a Businessman, like Trump, I know that individual talent is nothing. Its about networking, and surrounding yourself with other talented people. Success has little to do with your individual skill but the strength of your team.

To defeat the marxists we need to expose them as frauds and come out of the shadows and unify as much as possible. Trump is doing this. We can unite and network under his banner, but all the SJWs must be exposed and attacked individually, because one on one they can not win.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Nojokur
I know Christian churches have nothing to do with the Vatican, you faggot. But it's still a church. And for the record, I'm in Burgerland. Won't say where, though. You might SWAT me like a liberal would.

Evilember
Evilember

@Gigastrength
Well then perhaps you could control your destiny to look it up like a man rather than begging for people to explain things to you like a slave

FastChef
FastChef

@5mileys
And it's still the largest denomination. Thank you for proving me right.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Skullbone
But it's still a church
Shit it's not operating under socialism so it's evil, gotcha.

And for the record, I'm in Burgerland. Won't say where, though. You might SWAT me like a liberal would.

This is how a /pol/ack types according to /intl/ and /leftypol/. keke

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Nojokur
most Christians have anything to do with the Pope..
Actually, not true. Most of the apostolic denominations - such as Methodist and Anglican - still have close ties to Rome.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Evilember
(double dubs checked)

Well played.

Either way, I don't do what Zionists tell me. I now know what ZOG means, user. I appreciate your challenge.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@GoogleCat
Shit it's not operating under socialism so it's evil, gotcha.

But it IS operating under socialism, retard. Why are these Christian churches, like the rest of the other religions ALWAYS ASKING FOR MONEY?!

And don't you dare accuse me of supporting a shit system, because I don't. The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. PERIOD.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@CouchChiller
ALWAYS ASKING FOR MONEY?!
WHY IS THE STORE ALWAYS ASKING FOR MONEY
And don't you dare accuse me of supporting a shit system

capitalism is evil
non-profits are evil
Support my for-profit jew retail store instead goyim

Gotcha

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Evil_kitten
When did I say Capitalism was evil, shitbrains? Now I know you're cherrypicking. What did I say in my last post?

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. PERIOD.

READ, NIGGER! READ!

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

If you generalize the entire right and left, it's something like this. From my perspective at least.

The Right's end game:
A strong, unified and isolationist culture that conserves its identity and retains individual freedom and promotes individualism, autonomy and self reliance. The end goal is improving one's culture in ways that respect and adhere to its roots and preserves its identity. Strong military dominance and a people unified by culture and identity is the goal, and as such requires a homogeneous society to be the most successful.

The Left's end game:
The left has no real end game. It's in the name "progressive", it's a constant push forward towards whatever utopian future the people in power want. The ideal leftist future is a completely united world where all cultures are absolutely equal in every way and every human being is tolerant of everyone. Some might look at that as a noble goal but the only way it could ever be possible is if all barriers between humans, namely race, class, and social roles, are removed. That requires the erasure of culture and identity, and that's where globalism comes from. Race mixing on a global scale, long term psyops to distance people from their cultures, and forcing leftism on countries is the method that they use to accomplish this goal.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Fried_Sushi
racist didn't work
ethnocentrist didn't work
I'll call him colonial!

happy_sad
happy_sad

@TurtleCat
There is only one REAL deciding aspect of both the left and right: whether you believe in equality or not. The left's entire thought process is built upon the underlying core belief that people are, for the most part, inherently equal. The right, on the other hand has its entire thought process built on the underlying core belief that people *aren't* inherently equal.

Literally every political system or ideology that has ever existed has either held one or the other as core tenets of its foundation. Once you start viewing ideologies through this lens, it begins to make sense why ideologies as different as fascism and libertarianism are both considered "right wing".

Evilember
Evilember

@MPmaster
What are you saying /intl/? You're going around in circles.

TechHater
TechHater

@happy_sad
Indeed. Though for clarification purposes, a lot of right-wingers believe that America is a Christian nation. Absolutely NOT TRUE. They're dong the exact same thing the left-wing does; they engage in rewriting history, and that drives me absolutely insane. The founding fathers were never Christians; they were Deists. That's why Freedom of Religion was absolutely important to them.

FastChef
FastChef

@Evilember
I'm not /intl/. Stop shitposting.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@iluvmen
Let me ask you this: Do you expect that all those people you call "degenerates" will just give up, let you win and gas them all without any resistance?

Or let me ask you this way: If you were born a "degenerate" (a homosexual for example) would you just give up and let Leeky Forums users to gas you just for what you are?

We all know what the answer is: You wouldn't. You would fight Leeky Forums until the last drop of blood in your body.

I hope you see how hopeless this situation is. It has to end up in blood. Either in ours or yours.

Don't expect me to just give up and die. I won't. If you want to take my life, i want to take yours.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@FastChef
No you

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@JunkTop
Rule of Acquisition #28: Morality is always defined by those in power.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Deadlyinx
I don't see how is that related to my post tbh.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@TechHater
Agreed. It also pisses me off when leftists tout "freedom of religion" to justify allowing millions of middle easterners and muslims into out nation. The purpose of the seperation of Church and state was to prevent religious institutions like the Roman catholic Church emerging, consolidating power, and corrupting the republican process under the guise of being the "one true faith". Freedom of religion was also put in place for similar reasons as SOCS, but also to keep tensions from getting out of hand between the two main adversarial denominations of Christianity at the time - Catholics and Protestants. I bet Islam was never even an afterthought in the minds of the Founding Fathers. They would never have imagined the hell we're going through today.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Deadlyinx
I don't see how is that related to my post tbh.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@GoogleCat
Finally. Somebody gets it.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@JunkTop
Do you expect that all those people you call "degenerates" will just give up, let you win and gas them all without any resistance?

Nothing was ever won without a fight. A resistance may very well be likely, but luckily for us, the very nature of the degenerate filth that populates the left ensures they are no headache to deal with. Look at our opposition. Physically weak, emotionally weak, sexually deviant, manipulative, failures with the perpetual mindset of naive children.

For the record, I don't want to kill all gays. I think that's unrealistic, an unnecessary waist of resources, and an unjust punishment. I just think that the sexuality should be actively repressed through public education, propaganda campaigns, and strict but not unreasonable punishments for public displays/promotion of your disposition. Homosexuality should be viewed as what it is: a mental illness that causes its victims to live and pursue unhealthy, self-destructive lifestyles that, if went unchecked, would damage the moral fabric of the nation.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@TurtleCat
A strong, unified and isolationist culture that conserves its identity

But what about situations where different cultures are in conflict?

Take Germans and Slavs for example. There are certain parts of europe which both Germans and Slavs claim that it belongs to them and they both want to take it from the other side to "preserve their culture and identity".

They are both Leeky Forums minded, both want to preserve "their land" from "invaders", yet they are in conflict.

Which one of them should get that land? The stronger one?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Left and right wing politics are caused by r type and k type evolutionary strategies, respectively, the only endgame for left wingers is to create an environment in which they thrive, if you were a penguin, you would want cold weather, if you were a chihuahua, you would want warm weather and you would be threatened by everything else, this is why there is so much salt, cognitive dissonance, and violence among the left, when you criticize welfare state, immigration, etc. it is perceived as an existential threat because r-type psychology has no in-group loyalty and needs handouts for its reproductive strategy to be viable. Fundamentally, a lot of the rhetoric that surrounds both right and left politics is superficial and irrelevant, this is inherently an issue of biology and human evolution. right wing and left wing politics is gene warfare between K-type humans and R-type humans.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Boy_vs_Girl
Nothing was ever won without a fight. A resistance may very well be likely, but luckily for us, the very nature of the degenerate filth that populates the left ensures they are no headache to deal with. Look at our opposition. Physically weak, emotionally weak, sexually deviant, manipulative, failures with the perpetual mindset of naive children.

I see. In other words: I'm weaker than you, so it doesn't matter if i fight you.

I just want to show you that i have no other choice than fight you, because you give me none.

See you when it happens.

You will need lots and lots of bullets to kill us all and also someone who will clean your streets from our blood.

I hope you can afford that.

Bidwell
Bidwell

nigger

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@New_Cliche
(Checked)

Think about it, user. The right demands that you live by their standards. A set of standards and mob justice that go completely against both the Bill of Rights and the Constitution; the greatest documents of freedom ever written.

The Christian tends to behave no better than the Muslim. In which if you do not believe what they do, you are considered undesirable #1, or deserve to be killed, worst case scenario. They want to control your sex life, tell you how to live, or if you're a Christian Baby Boomer, chastise you for "chasing the almighty dollar" while also demanding you either give it to them or their church. God forbid, no pun intended, your wife is raped by a sick monster, and this Christian government forces your wife to give birth to a rape baby; a child that is not of your own bloodline, that will mentally scar your wife, and won't grow up right.

But what's the alternative? Open sex in the middle of the road mentality? Irresponsible, unprotected sex spreading disease? A mentality where men should be subservient to women? Where men and women aren't truly equal by acknowledgeing their differences? Where people think pedophilia is ok? Where abortion is so out of control that even infanticide is ok?

Where is the fucking balance here?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Burnblaze
But what about situations where different cultures are in conflict?
Which one of them should get that land? The stronger one?

Yes and No. Neither should get the land by virtue of being the strongest. Only the one that applies its strength against the opponent and succeeds in defeating said opponent has any "right" to the land. Everything is power play. A nation doesn't have any right to land unless it has the strength and power to keep/take it.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@New_Cliche
(Checked)

Think about it, user. The right demands that you live by their standards. A set of standards and mob justice that go completely against both the Bill of Rights and the Constitution; the greatest documents of freedom ever written.

The Christian tends to behave no better than the Muslim. In which if you do not believe what they do, you are considered undesirable #1, or deserve to be killed, worst case scenario. They want to control your sex life, tell you how to live, or if you're a Christian Baby Boomer, chastise you for "chasing the almighty dollar" while also demanding you either give it to them or their church. God forbid, no pun intended, your wife is raped by a sick monster, and this Christian government forces your wife to give birth to a rape baby; a child that is not of your own bloodline, that will mentally scar your wife, and won't grow up right.

But what's the alternative? Open sex in the middle of the road mentality? Irresponsible, unprotected sex spreading disease? A mentality where men should be subservient to women? Where men and women aren't truly equal by acknowledgeing their differences? Where people think pedophilia is ok? Where abortion is so out of control that even infanticide is ok?

Where is the fucking balance here?

(GODDAMN IT, KIKEWHEELS!)

idontknow
idontknow

@Playboyize
Well, if the land belongs to the one with enough power to take it, the whole world would be German in time no doubt. I don't see any culture perseverance in that.

@Poker_Star
But what's the alternative? Open sex in the middle of the road mentality? Irresponsible, unprotected sex spreading disease? A mentality where men should be subservient to women? Where men and women aren't truly equal by acknowledgeing their differences? Where people think pedophilia is ok? Where abortion is so out of control that even infanticide is ok?

That sounds like a slippery slope argument to me.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@idontknow
*culture preservation

Evilember
Evilember

@Poker_Star
The right
Stopped reading here. You have no fucking clue what you're talking about, as demonstrated by the fact that you still adhere to the left/right false dilemma.

edgelord fedora rants against the church mommy and daddy made you go to
/reddit/index.html

SniperGod
SniperGod

5485111(checked 'em thrice)
I see. In other words: I'm weaker than you, so it doesn't matter if i fight you.

Keep in mind that when I say "you" and "me" I'm not referring to you and I as individual people, but rather the hypothetical schools of belief that we might adhere to and which might exist in violent opposition in the future. In this particular case, "you" are the pro sexual-deviancy left, and "we" are the anti sexual-deviancy right.

I just want to show you that i have no other choice than fight you, because you give me none.

In the event your life is threatened, you have every logical reason to respond with force. My point was that the "left" as it stands today would not put up any significant fight due to the reasons I already listed.

But as I mentioned, I have no interest in killing you for being a fag. I just don't want your faggotry openly paraded/promoted, talked about, or put in a positive light.I hope that you exist as a person separate from your sexual desires, user.

RumChicken
RumChicken

the right tends to believe in a higher power from which a persons intrinsic value is derived. this is the basis for rights which are meant to be protected from other people and governments themselves. that is a tendency anyway.

the notion of equality is an assertion of this intrinsic value and goes no further than acknowledging such.

the left's version of equality is purely economic. look at the campaigns of white privilege, BLM, immigration…it is all rooted in wealth distribution. ironically, in order to accomplish this end you'd have to trample on the actual rights of many by institutionalizing their use of time and resources. equality to them means nothing more than normalized means across the board.

it is most easy to accomplish this redifinition in a society that rejects any power higher than the state and leads masses to surrender their real rights in exchange for the fake ones.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@JunkTop
Kek. A bunch of faggots and degenerates "fighting back." I'm trembling.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@idontknow
How do you figure? I'm displaying the cons of both the left and the right-wing. Nothing more, nothing less.

5mileys
5mileys

@idontknow
Well, if the land belongs to the one with enough power to take it

enough power to take it AND the will to do so. Keep that in mind. Mexico and Canada don't belong to the US even though the US has has the hard power to annex both of them. Simply having the capabilities to do something doesn't mean you will or that its in your best interests to.

I don't see any culture perseverance in that.
Of course that's culture perseverance. It's the cultural perseverance of The Germans at the expense of everyone else.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@idontknow
muh slippery slope fallacy

Slippery slope is not a logical fallacy. It's a politically driven argument used to get an inch so the degenerates can take a mile. Look at the gay rights movement - the right said that if you do this, you'd soon get people advocating for pedophilia and bestiality. And that's exactly what we got. Look at the Salon and HuffPo articles from last year.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@SniperGod
I hope that you exist as a person separate from your sexual desires, user.

I have no idea what do you mean by that. Like i am a fag only sometimes?

@VisualMaster
It was not supposed to make you tremble. It was more like: Are all those bullets you spend on killing us worth it? Is all that time you spend killing us worth it? I don't know about you, but i would rather spend my time watching chinese cartoons than killing someone. I guess we are different kind of people.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@idontknow
That sounds like a slippery slope argument to me.

The "slippery slope" has proven not to really be a fallacy, mate. The response of many leftists when trying to justify their perversions is that they *just* want xyz, and suggesting they might push for more later is merely touting the "slippery slope".

Look at the how homosexuality was normalised. First they *just* wanted to get it removed as a mental illness. Then they *just* wanted it to be supported as a valid lifestyle and sexuality, then they *just* wanted it to be promoted as equal to heterosexuality, then they *just* wanted marriage rights, then they *just wanted adoption rights, etc.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@CouchChiller
I have no idea what do you mean by that. Like i am a fag only sometimes?

I mean I hope your identity as a person is not based solely on the fact you like to stick your dick in another man's pooper.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Both have genuine convictions but both are pawns, there isn't much value in discussing what each will do once any gets their way, as history will merely repeat itself, so let's instead lay out what will happen with both and the role they play in the grand scheme of things.

First off, I want you to notice what the LEFT is fighting for, beyond that "freedom", "equality" and many other buzzwords, beyond cultural marxism and perpetual commie revolution wet dreams, beyond all pretense and actions they are characterized for, lie its leaders, the golbalist jews pulling the strings and guiding the pieces.

Does this means the jews want what their leftist goblins are doing? Of course not, far from it really, jews and globalists want only one thing, complete dominion over the entire planet, weather they reach this goal by consent or by conquest is meaningless, they want to have it, and everything, absolutely everything they do is oriented towards this.

Now, here's where the RIGHT comes in, not only people who share our views, but the mainstream right as well.
See, white genocide ( feminism, immigration, affirmative action, homosexuals, mgtow's and anything that puts whites in the "not having kids" mindset) and all the destruction and subversion of the west in general, is certainly inspired in an ancient semitic spite and desire to destroy and enslave the goyim, particularly the white ones, there is no doubt about it, BUT, it doesn't just end there.

All the odds stacked against whites are meant to create proper conditions to advance their plans of world domination further, you are already seeing it in motion, the zeitgeist is changing, more and more people by the day are getting fed up with the leftist bullshit that has been plaging the world for decades, and for every action, comes and equal reaction in opposite direction.

The intention of kikes is to change the beat of their drums once the overton window is not on their side anymore, that is, kikes will suddenly start to SUPPORT the real political right once their schemes create a bunch of white people fucking pissed, the media will portray it as a sudden change of heart, a realization of the stupid liberal unable to asses reality finally facing the detructive consequences of his decisions, but the truth will be several layers deeper as always, the truth will be that hiena poked the lion until it stood up in anger, and then shifted blame to the zebra and the antelope so it could feats on it's carcass once the lion was done with them, just like in 9/11, lusitania and pearl harbor, only on a global scale.

What I'm trying to say is that the jew wants a mockery "4th reich" with them at charge of the hordes of disenfranchised white men trying to kill the nebulous enemy jews have pointed as responsible for their misery, i.e, the rest of the world.

See, once this happens and "the lion wakes up", /pol/acks, after cumming blood, will eventually see this scheme unfold before them, but the mainstream right will listen and believe just as always, deeming their manipulators their greatest allies while mowing down shitskin proxies and never adressing the real problem.

The funny thing here is that no matter what the "lion" does, it is at the brink of perishing, if whites get misslead into this "not-communism" right wing death squad and hand over the world to kikes, you will have soviet union 2: electric boogaloo, a.k.a a bunch of dead white goyim executed for being useless, if they do not act, they will be swallowed by the brown tide and jews will still inherit the earth, And if they do follow the political shift, but nothing major comes from it, the cicle will repeat itself until it does.

The only way to ensure history doesn't follow this path is to adress the jewish question, as long as they can shapeshift from staunch conservatives to delluled liberals unrestricted, nothing can be done about their influence on our future.

tl;dr

Jews will pretend to go "14/88" once the shit they manufactured hits the fan, but only to advance their powergrip, once this platform cannot yield any more control, they'll dispose of it alongside with the people who build it.

Problem, reaction, solution on a global scale.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Nojokur
I don't think it is. I don't even think that someone's identity can be based solely on that tbh.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@CouchChiller
If you think poopdick is your whole identity, you're beyond salvation.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@RumChicken
the right tends to believe in a higher power from which a persons intrinsic value is derived (….) the notion of equality is an assertion of this intrinsic value and goes no further than acknowledging such.

the left's version of equality is purely economic.

I would respectfully disagree. I think it's the very nature of the right to reject any assumptions of "equality" at all. The right is based on the idea that nature, and under that people, are inherently unequal, and thus society should be structured with this knowledge in mind (i.e only the most competent and capable people should be the ones leading the nation instead of absolutely everybody having an equal vote).

The left seems to tout social equality just as much, if not more, than economic equality. The wealth redistribution is only the conclusion the left can arrive at after first assuming people are inherently equal. They see poor blacks and automatically assume they are poor due to systems of oppression instead of their own biological inferiority. From this, they conclude that the only way to "fix" these systems of inequality is "redistributing" wealth from the "oppressors" to the "oppressed" in order to uplift the otherwise completely equal black population.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@kizzmybutt
@BinaryMan
The slippery slope was never a fallacy. Both the left and right-wings have used this as an excuse to control people, or take away freedoms for their own sense of power and desire.

You saw how the left uses homosexuality as a means to normalize things like pedophilia and bestiality.

Full disclosure: I don't give a shit what you do in your bedroom behind closed doors. I, myself, am bisexual. If you are a man who wants to have sex with a dog, horse or another man; or you're a woman who wants to have sex with another woman, or the afformentioned, that's your problem. You can do whatever you want in your bedroom as long as you leave children alone. An adult has NO RIGHT to have sex with a child, for a child cannot comprehend, or process sexual relations with an adult.

That being said, there are a lot of people who fuck things up for everybody by putting sick, degenerate ideologies where they don't belong.

But you take a look on the right, what do you have? Paranoid delusions and motivations where personal tragedy is concerned. Look who the right-wingers were before: degenerate, yuppie, hypocritical baby boomers who want to tell you how to live. Who believe that sexuality is sick, when it's the most human aspect of humanity since the beginning of time. Who believe that children should be put on sex offender registries. DUI checkpoints are a great thing. The same kind of RINO idiots who believe safety trumphs freedom.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Let me ask you one more thing: What is actually bad about homosexuality?

I know many people here want to kill me for it, but none of them have explained to me why yet.

So far it seems like "stop liking what i don't like" kind of hatred.

If you say that homosexuality is "bad" and "evil"… Please define "bad" and "evil".

Because those words have obviously different meaning for me than for you.

I define evil as something that causes a suffering. How does homosexuality cause a suffering?

WebTool
WebTool

@Firespawn
Neither scenarios played out in nazi germany, it think that's a pretty good balance.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@w8t4u
You clearly haven't seen some of the more depraved fags

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Notice how the "right" side of OP's crappy image only advocates for PRESERVATION and libertarian social prospects and limited government, not REACTIONARY ideology or a strong state…. apparently a strong state is only kosher if it's forcing marxist propaganda?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Emberfire
Homosexuality in itself is not a bad thing, it should just not be promoted.

More homosexuals = less children.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Ignoramus
Wait. Are you implying that somebody can become a homosexual?

Bidwell
Bidwell

Not sure, I'm third positionist myself

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@iluvmen
An adult has NO RIGHT to have sex with a child, for a child cannot comprehend, or process sexual relations with an adult.
any scientific study to support that claim? also what is a child? is 13 yo still a child? where is the border? and how come that somebody can comprehend sexual relation from from day to day by turning 18?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Not sure, I'm third positionist myself

@Lunatick
See: Ancient Greece
There's a difference between homosexuality and homosexual acts, and a difference between saying it shouldn't be promoted and should be advocated.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Not sure, I'm third positionist myself

@Lunatick
See: Ancient Greece
There's a difference between homosexuality and homosexual acts, and a difference between saying it shouldn't be promoted and should be oppressed. It's possible to tolerate it without tolerating the Cultural Marxist pushing of it.

Fucking HW, let me post

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Emberfire
What is actually bad about homosexuality?

Homosexuality, as in the mere attraction, is completely harmless. That has never been what the Right is in opposition to. People have urges to do things all the time, but ultimately resist.

It is the homosexual acts and the lifestyle that often surrounds homosexuals which the Right despises, not the attraction in and of itself. Simply put, homosexual acts spread disease and literally tear assholes, but this isn't all of it. Generally what you find with homosexuals is that they aren't just "completely normal people with a different sexual preference", but instead are highly-promiscuous, hyper-sexual people who engage in other depraved acts (eating shit, purposely sharing diseases, etc.), and who form their identities as people largely around the fact that they are sexually attracted to their own gender.

Promoting such people as "healthy and normal" is even more damaging, because it pollutes the minds of children and could very well make them question their own sexuality. Homosexuality is also incredibly hedonistic and simply put, an unnatural lifestyle to promote. By promoting homosexuality as equal to heterosexuality, you are cheapening heterosexual relationships and subsequently presenting them as purely hedonistic sources of personal pleasure, the same way homosexual ones are

idontknow
idontknow

@Fried_Sushi
but instead are highly-promiscuous, hyper-sexual people who engage in other depraved acts (eating shit, purposely sharing diseases, etc.), and who form their identities as people largely around the fact that they are sexually attracted to their own gender.

I don't think i'm like that at all tbh.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Methnerd
very American-centric image

DeathDog
DeathDog

Anyway, i'm out. It's not like i can change anything by talking to people on imageboards. Peace.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@DeathDog
I don't blame you. I'm out too. Gonna play some vidya.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Methnerd
Your image sucks

Snarelure
Snarelure

@idontknow
then that's perfectly fine. That doesn't change the fact that many more are. You can exist as an upstanding citizen who so-happens to be homosexual, but doesn't put his physical urges before his duty to the nation and the people, and most definitely doesn't promote it as equal-to or better-than heterosexuality in any way.

I can respect you as a person regardless of your homosexuality, but the moment you start waving a flag of fag-pride and promoting that deviancy, you'll be shut down.

If you enjoy the inside of another man's anus in the secret of your own home and make sure it's not a general knowledge that you're doing it, then I think the state shouldn't give a shit at all

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Emberfire
Homosexuality is a mental illness, a self destructive behavior scientifically proven to be a vector for disease that should be in no way encouraged or tolerated.

Weather or not you think that individuals have the right to do as they please even if it's bad for them, homos are a danger to more people than just themselves and thus shouldn't be allowed to exist publicly even by lolbergturdian standadrs.

@Lunatick
Most if not all homosexuals are taught, that's why they're bad for society at large.

People do not exist in a vacuum, millions of faggots not only spreading disease , but also paraded to as completely natural and healthy harmless people can't exist without affecting their sorroundings.

Their existence under such conditions impacts later generations by brainwashing them into believe there's nothing wrong with such conducts, or like you do, to be unable to grasp what's wrong about them.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@PackManBrainlure
You're saying a naturalist understanding of homo sapiens entails third positionism?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@lostmypassword
Yes.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@cum2soon
Why do atheists tend to be leftists, then? Or at least a large percentage of them?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Nojokur
what retard is bringing their kids to folsom street fair in the first place?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Emberfire
Aids

Lunatick
Lunatick

@TalkBomber
Because most atheists simply replace the religious god with the ideological god. Many atheists supplant faith in a deity with faith in grand ideas like "equality" or other leftists tropes that have been hammered into them from a young age.

You have to understand that many modern atheists didn't become atheists through much self-reflection and subsequent reanalysis of their world-view, but were instead simply brought up without a god and only had the liberal, cultural-Marxist education system to guide them.

You'll find that many leftist atheists are also just uninformed. Those that parade ideologies like communism or socialism do so because it's purely materialistic and relatively low-hanging fruit on the tree of ideologies. Many atheists support wealth redistribution through socialist policies because they legitimately think it works and benefits people. If they truly cared about the search for truth, they would change their worldview once better solutions or explanations have been provided. This is how you can tell a true "atheist" from a pseudo-religious commie.

Take me as an example. Two years ago I would have considered myself a communist/socialist. I wasn't fanatical or religious about it, but I supported it because I seriously believed it offered a viable system to replace the current one. After I found Leeky Forums, however, my worldview changed when I became better informed. My lack of belief in a god has remained constant. (well, I guess i'd consider myself more of a Deist, but you get the idea)

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

If you're still concerned about a left-right split, you're barking up the wrong tree.
This isn't about left v. right, this is about nationalist v. globalist.
@TreeEater
for one religion is inherently Left wing.
what is paganism not the shitty wicca kind, but what the Romans and Norse practiced
what is Islam
what is Mormonism
wew lad

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Deadlyinx
This thread is more about left/right schools of thought rather than specific ideologies. There's no denying that there is a spectrum.

FastChef
FastChef

@JunkTop
Do you expect that all those people you call "degenerates" will just give up, let you win and gas them all without any resistance?

I never called them degenerates.

You're asking the wrong question. It's not about gassing them or the day of the rope.

What we want to do is shift the Overton window from "how do I blame the successful people for everything and weaken them so that I can compete" to "how do we make the species more successful, how do we propagate the strongest and best cultures and individuals"

Political discourse shouldn't be about how to teach kids to be trannies, it should be about how do we make sure the next generation is strong and intelligent. The question shouldn't be how many millions of rapefugees to let in, it should be about making sure 3rd world barbarians can do no damage to us.

There will always be radical leftists, fags, child molesters, necrophiles, drug addicts, etc. As long as they arent hurting anyone I really dont care what they do, but normalizing that behavior is insane and destructive.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@DeathDog
I figured, but it never hurts to remind lurkers that a right-leaning globalist is still an enemy.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Garbage Can Lid
agreed

Methnerd
Methnerd

34% of leftists don't support war

Yeah instead they support "worldwide revolution" which is no different than war

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Methnerd
they support "worldwide revolution"
Yeah, but they almost always never deliver.
They incite the ignorant masses they always deride, then become confused as to why the groveling proletarians turn on them.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Lunatick
I approve of this post

@Snarelure
@iluvmen
capped

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Need_TLC
I approve of this post

I was excited for a second because I thought you capped my post. Do you realise how much my hopes were crushed, user?

idontknow
idontknow

@Spazyfool
Don't worry, I capped it.
Are your feels salvaged faggot?

SniperGod
SniperGod

@idontknow
Thanks user. You made my tummy all warm and fuzzy again.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@SniperGod
Sure thing.
Now go out and make your ancestors and the gods proud.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@JunkTop
nordic pagan

Oh user. I was so close to respecting you.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Crazy_Nice
Would you prefer if I was a Roman pagan?
Or would you rather have me be a dike wicca faggot?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Gigastrength
I'd rather you not pick and choose religions like flavours of ice-cream and realise that Deism is the only rational form of spiritualism there is.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Fuzzy_Logic
not pick and choose religions
I don't, though. It's entirely based on blood, my friend. If I were Hindu, I'd be worshiping the Devas.

FastChef
FastChef

@Methnerd
Left and Right have become no more than buzzwords in the 21st century. Whatever they meant before, they are meaningless now.

Not even Leeky Forums can move beyond the old paradigms.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Methnerd
Both the "left" and "right" are based on enlightenment thinking. Right wing enlightenment politics also has globalism as an end goal. But their globalism is different from the marxist globalism. Right wing enlightenment globalism is focused on a global economy while marxist globalism is on forming the one world government. This is why you have marxists that are being called anti globalists at g8 meetings. The thing is they aren't actually against globalism, but they are against the right wing globalism. They are alter globalists not nationalists. The real anti globalist and opposite of them is anti enlightenment politics. The reactionaries, third position, alternative right or what you want to call them.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@BlogWobbles
religion is not based on blood. I have loyalty to the white race yet I am a deist/atheist. You have no legitimate connection to that dead religion. it's been extinct for almost a thousand years. Much of it is unknown. You're only following it because you think it's what you *should* follow, even if you don't truly believe in it.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Methnerd
science belongs to the left
holy fuck, this is the worst meme on the planet, its legitimately less accurate than the "islam is a peaceful religion" meme, and OP is a faggot for having saved this trash on his computer.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@iluvmen
tfw probably a beta
I have a strong body but I'm very weak socially. I'll always have trouble to assert dominance if I can't communicate properly.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Methnerd
This. Also
Right
hawks
Some of us are non-interventionists.
Family
Right
relationship based on respect and fear
I'm triggered.

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